PSA: Vaccines and You

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  1. pete

    pete Brassica Oleracea Staff Member Administrator

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    No, this isn't about the vaxxer/anti-vaxxer thing.

    Tl;Dr: If you're currently taking or should be taking antibiotics, don't get the pneumonia or flu shots until you've used up all the antibiotics and are feeling fine.

    So, on Monday, I went into my doctor to get a pneumonia shot and flu shot. While I was there, I asked the dr to check my throat, as it had been a bit sore for about 5 days.

    Anyhow, the dr asked if I had any fever, recently. I told him "Not exactly." My normal body temp is around 97 and it hit 99 that day. Dr examines me and says I have a sinus infection. Says he'll write out a prescription for antibiotics, then he called in his nurse to give me shots. All was fine and dandy until about 8 hours later. High fever (103), terrible body aches, worse than normal headaches, etc.

    Well, I know that one of the side effects of both the flu and the pneumonia vaccines is a low fever (100ish) and minor body aches, so I waited until the next day ... and got worse: alternating between being extremely hot and shaking with cold. Hey, I live outside of Phoenix, AZ: my air conditioner is still on.

    Well, where I work, there's a doctor-on-call hotline where we can describe symptoms and get some prescriptions, if necessary. That dr says, "You really shouldn't get the antibiotics and shots at the same time. You need to be healthy when you get the vaccinations." Great. "If you are shaking, develop a cough or develop any new symptoms, go to the emergency room." I've been shaking. "OK, if that happens again, go to the ER." Which is where I spent my evening.

    Sooooo, a Physician's Assistant (PA) and three nurses also confirmed that I shouldn't have gotten the vaccinations until I was 100% healthy. The assumption is, now, that I do have the flu. I'm taking Tamiflu for that. I've also got a narcotic that was strong enough to knock me out for a solid 8 hours of sleep.

    The new fun thing for today? The upper arm that I got the shots in is mostly red and, if I touch any of the red, it hurts.

    *Sigh* I'm *supposed* to be on vacation ...
     
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    Take two aspirins and post us in the morning. (sorry you're suffering, Pete)
     
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    Helen Content Expert Saxophones Staff Member Administrator

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    Happy Vaca... NOT!

    Um, yes... I knew that. But jeez, I'm just a retired paramedic. I'm sure Jim's wife knows that as well. I'm not sure what your doc was thinking????

    I'm sorry to hear that you're suffering like this Pete. If I lived closer, I'd don my N95 mask; bring chicken soup; put it on your door step; ring the bell; and then back away to a safe distance--likely at least 20' or so. ;) (You can't be too safe.)

    Kidding.... Not about the chicken soup thing, just about the other stuff. :)
     
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    pete Brassica Oleracea Staff Member Administrator

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    Thanks, folks. I'll keep y'all updated. ATM, I'm just really tired. Daughter 2.0 should be coming home within the next hour and I'll probably take a nap, then.
     
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    pete Brassica Oleracea Staff Member Administrator

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    Status report:
    * 2 days without fever.
    * Arm is much less red.
    * Still unable to do much more than haul my butt out of bed and make it to the couch. Tried going out to get my new glasses. Big mistake. Almost had to have wife come and get me.
    * New symptom: kidney area on both sides is hurting. It might be due to the approximately 1.4 trillion gallons of water I drank over the past few days.

    Well, I am off on Monday and Tuesday ...
     
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    pete Brassica Oleracea Staff Member Administrator

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    So, I got to go to the ER again. I have at least one kidney stone and a bunch of gall bladder stones. And my creatinine level is, on a scale of 1 to 1.5, a 2. *Sigh.* Just to add insult to the injury, the glasses have problems: I can't focus with them.
     
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    Helen Content Expert Saxophones Staff Member Administrator

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    It sounds like the wheels have fallen off the bus Pete. I suspect this image could bring on PTSD right about now. ;) itd_3d_ani_w60_smiles_058.gif
     
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    My age was driven home to me a couple of years ago. After an ultrasound for an unrelated problem, my doc said they also saw some gall stones, and that he would recommend surgery if I were younger. At my age, he said, I should just wait to see if they cause a problem. The race is on!
     
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    Sounds like a savvy doctor.
     
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    Yes, he's on the rational side. I've been fighting siatica most of this year. He taught me various stretches and seems reluctant to refer to a surgeon. That's great with me. The two times you don't want to hear "oops" from a doc are during spinal surgery or a vasectomy.
     
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    I struggled with back pain for about 20 years. This book was recommended by my doctor, and it made a world of difference.
     
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    pete Brassica Oleracea Staff Member Administrator

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    I lost 18 pounds in a month. Now I can eat desserts again! They're good for me!

    (I also have high cholesterol and I've taken drugs for it for 5+ years. Mine's genetic-based. Thanks, Ma.)

    End-all, be-all from the specialist was that I'm going to have surgery or "a surgical procedure" in the next couple of weeks. I have to get a CAT scan done.

    I've done a little bit of searching for a new General Practitioner. Surprisingly, there are only 7 within a 25-mile radius of my house. I live in the 3rd largest city in AZ and we have almost a half-million residents.
     
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    Helen Content Expert Saxophones Staff Member Administrator

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    Pete, this is crazy. I can't believe what is happening to you. As that that saying goes: If you didn't have bad luck....
     
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    pete Brassica Oleracea Staff Member Administrator

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    You lost me in a minute of bad memories of watching "Hee Haw" in the 1970s.

    Current status: I'm able to sit up and drive short distances without much of a problem. Now that I can stay home and work, I asked my boss if I could do so, at least until after the 18th, which I mentioned above is my doctor visit and possible surgical stuff. No problem. I like my boss.

    Pain is maybe a 6 on a scale of 1 to 10. Arm is significantly better and only hurts when pressure is applied. I do think I've got my fun sinus infection back, though. No fever, but drinking a lot. I'm no longer taking massive doses of acetaminophen or ibuprofen, although I still have nightly pain pills for about a week. Related, though, is that I do have cluster headaches and migraines. I've had a medicine called Toradol that I'm supposed to take if my two other head pain meds don't work. However, I'm only allowed to take two in one week or three in a month, because it can destroy your kidneys. That sounded really bad, so I've tried very, very hard never to take it. I did mention it to the kidney doctor. I'm only supposed to take if I'm, like, going to die if I don't.
     
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    Wow. I am not allowed to complain again ... ever. Here's me sending you good juju to come outta this well and strong.
     
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    Helen Content Expert Saxophones Staff Member Administrator

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    Ya, Toradol is brutal on the kidneys. My family doc will not, under any circumstances, prescribe them. Period. Full stop.

    I know this b/c I had some prescribed by a doc at a walk-in clinic nearly 10 years ago, after a lumbar puncture went wrong, and my back went out I leaned over about a week later, and I couldn't get up again. Now of course most normal people would call an ambulance--but not this former paramedic who has been on many of these "back went out, can't get up" calls.
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    Nah, I decided I would rather torture myself; crawl into a back seat of a car, lay down; and get driven to a walk-in clinic, then endure the horror show that is emerg....

    The doc at the walk-in gave me Toradol for the pain, which did help... Some, but not entirely. When I saw my family doc a few weeks later I got her lecture on the dangers of Toradol, and why she won't prescribe it... Especially given the other Rx. I'm on. She was actually really annoyed that it was prescribed to me at all.

    I figure between that, and the multiple contrast MRIs and CT scans that I've received over the past 10 years, I have likely reduced my kidneys' functioning by at least 5 years...
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    pete Brassica Oleracea Staff Member Administrator

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    I got to talk to Helen, yesterday. I always enjoy that.

    Current status: kidney/back pain is at a more or less 6 on a 1 to 10 scale, or slightly less. If I get really involved in something, I can ignore it. Until I move. No fever. Still a bit of sinus pressure. The heavy narcotics I was prescribed ran out, so I have been taking one of my low-end head meds before going to sleep. That both keeps me asleep and a I don't get up in the AM with *really* sore kidneys.

    Arm seems fine, now. I'm happy about that.

    I did go back to the eye doctor regarding my glasses. Bottom line is that I'm going to get some bifocals and see if those help. I asked for the ones with a line because the lineless ones do give me a headache and make me want to throw up.
     

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