FWIW, MartinMods is not a member here anymore and therefore will not have a chance to say anything in rebuttal HERE. One of the SOTW folks mentions that MM did post a rebuttal on his own website. I do also want to point out that one of our CEs (Merlin) did post on SOTW -- and other posters felt the same -- that the horns in questions might not even have been the same.