WooF Member Recording Thread

[tjontheroad]

Many of you have posted a recording or two here or there. I figured we'd make an official thread for all to hear and comment on. Constructive critiques are welcome. No comment is fine too ;-)

I'll get things starting with clarinet quartet version of "High Society" I just finished. There are two bass clarinet parts and two soprano clarinet parts. I transposed the original Eb sax parts for Bb clarinet from the original arrangement.

Click here to listen (http://web.me.com/tjontheroad1/tjontheroad1/High_Society.html)
(requires Quicktime)

or

My SoundClick Page (http://www.soundclick.com/bands/default.cfm?bandID=542012)


p.s. I hope Al doesn't mind I used his "WooF" name for this forum. I think it fits this place nicely.

[Gandalfe]

Here's a quartet arranged by Jeff (on sop) to get this thread going.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubUp1oKiIdk&feature=channel_page

TJ your link required me to install an update to QuickTime 7 and when I said selected No Thanks it hung the browser instance. Not cool.

[tjontheroad]

Here's a quartet arranged by Jeff (on sop) to get this thread going.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubUp1oKiIdk&feature=channel_page

TJ your link required me to install an update to QuickTime 7 and when I said selected No Thanks it hung the browser instance. Not cool.

Nice arraingement. I think that's my favorite Billy Joel tune. It has a certain special significance between me and my S.O.

I added my stuff to my SoundClick page (http://www.soundclick.com/bands/default.cfm?bandID=542012) if you having issues with Quicktime.

[Dave Dolson]

TJ: I was able to listen to it.

I was amazed that someone on this forum besides me and Al would even attempt HIGH SOCIETY, a GREAT old tune that almost every trad band that ever played - played, including bands with whom I've played and still do. I do it on soprano - clarinet for me is out of the question.

In your recording, I missed the famous (and almost mandatory) clarinet chorus originally done by legendary New Orleans clarinetist, Alphonce Picou. That tells me that either you are unfamiliar with it OR the person who wrote the music you used didn't know it.

I have many examples of this tune, done by masters of New Orleans jazz (Sidney Bechet, Johnny Dodds, and even old Alphonce himself - albeit he must have been really old when he recorded it for Jelly Roll Morton's famous interviews with Alan Lomax for the Library of Congress) and some current trad jazzers.

I'd be happy to send you a sound file if I had your e-mail address. Send me a PM if interested so you can hear how this tune was really played. Bechet's may be the best of all, but of course in my opinion, he was the best of a great bunch of New Orleans' reed men.

Thanks for the posting. DAVE

[tjontheroad]

TJ: I was able to listen to it.

I was amazed that someone on this forum besides me and Al would even attempt HIGH SOCIETY, a GREAT old tune that almost every trad band that ever played - played, including bands with whom I've played and still do. I do it on soprano - clarinet for me is out of the question.

In your recording, I missed the famous (and almost mandatory) clarinet chorus originally done by legendary New Orleans clarinetist, Alphonce Picou. That tells me that either you are unfamiliar with it OR the person who wrote the music you used didn't know it.

I have many examples of this tune, done by masters of New Orleans jazz (Sidney Bechet, Johnny Dodds, and even old Alphonce himself - albeit he must have been really old when he recorded it for Jelly Roll Morton's famous interviews with Alan Lomax for the Library of Congress) and some current trad jazzers.

I'd be happy to send you a sound file if I had your e-mail address. Send me a PM if interested so you can hear how this tune was really played. Bechet's may be the best of all, but of course in my opinion, he was the best of a great bunch of New Orleans' reed men.

Thanks for the posting. DAVE

Thanks for listening :)

I have very varied and eclectic taste in music Dave. I'll listen and try to play almost anything. I can't say I've heard the Alphonce Picou version you mentioned. Although, I do have the Bechet track in my collection. tjontheroad (at) yahoo (dot) com is my email if you'd like to forward. Thanks in advance.

Really, the only reason I picked this tune was because it was the first sax quartet arrangement I came across that I could transpose for two bass clarinets and two sop clarinets. That's something I wanted to try. And, since I'm fairly new to these instruments, I found the arrangement of reasonable difficulty for me. Also, I sold my soprano sax some time ago out of frustration. I never could get a decent tone out of that thing!

It's a fun tune. I enjoyed working with it. All these recordings I'm doing are a way for me to expand my practice routine.

[Dave Dolson]

TJ: I'll send you something. DAVE

[clarnibass]

Funny, that Billy Joel song was what my very old electric piano had as a sample. It was more like a toy than piano, and it had all sorts of weird sounds like ghost, machine gun, waves, and lots of pitch ones too. It played the Billy Joel song and every two bars changed the sound :)

For music, there are links in my signature. The first is the repair website which has no samples.
The second one www.myspace.com/nitailevi (http://www.myspace.com/nitailevi) has mostly old stuff from uni (first two) or improvisations from older concerts or rehearsals (the last two).
The third www.myspace.com/trekduo (http://www.myspace.com/trekduo) is duo of clarinets (me) and saxophones (another guy) of improvised music.
There is also some stuff on YouTube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fk0AdIZXtqI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Vtv7H38x2s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdJSqpc-CGY

Nitai

[Al Stevens]

p.s. I hope Al doesn't mind I used his "WooF" name for this forum. I think it fits this place nicely.
Okay by me. Woof!

[Al Stevens]

I was amazed that someone on this forum besides me and Al would even attempt HIGH SOCIETY, a GREAT old tune...One of my favorite versions of the Picou solo is on the Crescent City album by Paul Weston. Matty Matlock is the clarinet player.

[Gandalfe]

Circular breathing Nitai. Very interesting.

[Dave Dolson]

Al: I am not familiar with the Matty Matlock version, but I do know of him, having many of his recordings in my collection. Truthfully, he was not one of my favorite players - very vanilla in my opinion, but still he was a fine clarinetist - I wish I had his technique.

I tend toward the old-style jazz players. The Picou recording I have is rough, too rough for even my tastes, and I'm betting he was VERY tired when he did that one. I would like to have heard him in his prime. His old clarinet (with one of those funky upturned silver bells) is on display at a New Orleans' museum. DAVE

[tjontheroad]

TJ: I'll send you something. DAVE

Dave, you've got mail

Circular breathing Nitai. Very interesting.

Just what I was thinking. :cool:

[Dave Dolson]

http://web.me.com/tjontheroad1/tjontheroad1/D_Dolson_-_Si_Tu_Vois_Ma_Mere.html

http://web.me.com/tjontheroad1/tjontheroad1/D_Dolson_-_Perdido_Street_Blues.html

Well, TJ advised me to put these two links into a "text box", so here it is.

One tune is Sidney Bechet's SI TU VOIS MA MERE (IF YOU SEE MY MOTHER), recorded live in Santa Barbara, CA with Ulysses Jasz Band. I used my curved Yanagisawa SC902 with a Super Session J mouthpiece.

The other tune is PERDIDO STREET BLUES. recorded with Montana's Good Tyme Jazz Band in Whitefish, MT several years ago. I used my Buffet RC Prestige clarinet with a Vandoren B45 mouthpiece.

I hope this works. Thanks, TJ. DAVE

[Al Stevens]

Al: I am not familiar with the Matty Matlock version, but I do know of him, having many of his recordings in my collection. Truthfully, he was not one of my favorite players - very vanilla in my opinion, but still he was a fine clarinetist - I wish I had his technique.

I tend toward the old-style jazz players. The Picou recording I have is rough, too rough for even my tastes, and I'm betting he was VERY tired when he did that one. I would like to have heard him in his prime. His old clarinet (with one of those funky upturned silver bells) is on display at a New Orleans' museum. DAVE

Matty was a good small band arranger. The swing band I played in in the 1990s have a lot of his charts in their book.

http://www.billallred.com/

Bill is a big Matty fan, and he bought Matty's clarinet from Matty's son just to own it. (Bill doesn't play clarinet). It needed work, so he sent it to Chuck Hedges, also a great traditional and swing clarinet player who does woodwind repair. After overhauling it, Chuck told Bill flatly that because the clarinet played so well, he would not return the clarinet to Bill to be hung on a wall. He paid Bill what Bill paid for the horn, and now it's Chuck's main instrument.

(That's one for the instrument repair threads.)

My favorite clarinet player of that genre is Edmond Hall (also often spelled Edmund--not sure which is right). I worked with his brother Herb at Ryan's in the 1970s. Herb was no slouch on clarinet either.

[tjontheroad]

http://web.me.com/tjontheroad1/tjontheroad1/D_Dolson_-_Si_Tu_Vois_Ma_Mere.html

http://web.me.com/tjontheroad1/tjontheroad1/D_Dolson_-_Perdido_Street_Blues.html

Well, TJ advised me to put these two links into a "text box", so here it is.

One tune is Sidney Bechet's SI TU VOIS MA MERE (IF YOU SEE MY MOTHER), recorded live in Santa Barbara, CA with Ulysses Jasz Band. I used my curved Yanagisawa SC902 with a Super Session J mouthpiece.

The other tune is PERDIDO STREET BLUES. recorded with Montana's Good Tyme Jazz Band in Whitefish, MT several years ago. I used my Buffet RC Prestige clarinet with a Vandoren B45 mouthpiece.

I hope this works. Thanks, TJ. DAVE

You're welcome :) Good playing like that ^^^ should be heard by the masses.

[Al Stevens]

Dave, both your links crash my IE browser. I don't know why.

Here's one I recorded recently.

http://www.alstevens.com/alstevens/tunes/mp3s/imoldfashioned.mp3

[Helen]

Here's one I recorded recently.

http://www.alstevens.com/alstevens/tunes/mp3s/imoldfashioned.mp3

Just curious Al, is that played on your VI?.

[Dave Dolson]

Al: Nice work - bari, right?

The two links I put up were done by TJ - I'd e-mailed to him two mp3 files and he, in turn, sent back a web-site link with those two clips on them.

I posted them on WooF and when they went up, I listened to both on my iMac from WooF. Worked fine for me.

Maybe it is the same problem that crashed Gandalfe's Internet connection? DAVE

[Al Stevens]

Just curious Al, is that played on your VI?.
Yes, the newer one. Vintage 1974 with a fresh overhaul. RPC 115R and a Alexander DC Superial 2.5.

Listening to it, I hear way too many triplets. I'm trying to wean myself off them. It's like a bad habit. I think the lines could be cleaner without a lot of them.

[Al Stevens]

Al: Nice work - bari, right?
Tenor.

The two links I put up were done by TJ - I'd e-mailed to him two mp3 files and he, in turn, sent back a web-site link with those two clips on them.

I posted them on WooF and when they went up, I listened to both on my iMac from WooF. Worked fine for me.

Maybe it is the same problem that crashed Gandalfe's Internet connection? DAVEI think it has something to do with Quicktime. I won't install that insidious software on my computer.

[Dave Dolson]

Tenor? Wow, you sure got a low, growly sound out of the thing.

Sorry about the Quicktime issues. I don't know one from another and used what was provided.

TJ?

DAVE

[tjontheroad]

Well, IE7 and Quicktime don't seem to get along. I told them to play together nice, but that didn't work either. Damm kids!!!

IE6 (what I'm using now), Safari, Firefox, Opera and all other browsers don't seem to have an issue with my website or Quicktime. Oh well, I'm not a programmer. Just a stressed out financial advisor / part time music junkie with (supposedly all compatiable) easy to use iWeb software and a Mac. I don't know if there's a fix out there. I'll have to research the iWeb boards for more info. Untill then, please try another (better?) browser. Sorry if you all been harmed in any way :oops:

Dave, you may want to try www.soundclick.com (http://www.soundclick.com) and open an account for your stuff. It's pretty easy to use.

Al, I give your track a listen when I get home.

[Dave Dolson]

Thanks, TJ. DAVE

Al, I could probably e-mail those clips to you if you'd like . . . or not. DAVE

[Al Stevens]

Thanks, TJ. DAVE

Al, I could probably e-mail those clips to you if you'd like . . . or not. DAVE
Yes, I'd like to hear them. I always liked Si Tu Vois Ma Mere. I've been looking for lyrics to it for years, assuming that there are, in fact, lyrics.

[Helen]

Yes, the newer one. Vintage 1974 with a fresh overhaul. RPC 115R and a Alexander DC Superial 2.5.

I thought so. It sounds remarkably much like my jazz sound, that I get on my '72 VI. I use a Dukoff D7* & a Fibracell 2 1/2 though. There is something about the sound of the VIs, that just give them away.

[tjontheroad]

Here's one I recorded recently.

http://www.alstevens.com/alstevens/tunes/mp3s/imoldfashioned.mp3

Nice "in the pocket" feel to your sound. That's something I could work on. Enjoyed it :)

[Dave Dolson]

Al: I sent you an e-mail from WooF asking for your address so I could send the sound clips.

There is a trombone/cornet player in the northwest (and maybe Vancouver, B.C.), Jim Armstrong. He played with our Montana band on several occasions and once we played SI TU VOIS at a festival in Washington.

He asked if he could join me on stage for the tune. It is normally just a soprano sax + rhythm thing, but I readily agreed. He is a strong player. Well, he sang it in French and it knocked the whole place out. I couldn't repeat one word of it now, but OH MY, what a moment. DAVE

[Al Stevens]

I got them, Dave. Nice tracks. Si Tu Vois Ma Mere is a favorite of mine, and you did it very nicely. I really like your soprano tone.

I made another track last night. I rummaged around and found an accompaniment I recorded a few years ago and decided to add a sax track to it.

http://www.alstevens.com/alstevens/tunes/mp3s/ishouldcare.mp3

[Dave Dolson]

Thanks, Al. DAVE

[Al Stevens]

Here are two more tracks. The first is Nuages, the tune by Django in the same vein as Si tu Vois Ma Mere. The second is a 1925 Richard Rodgers tune, You Took Advantage of Me.

http://www.alstevens.com/alstevens/tunes/mp3s/nuages.mp3

http://www.alstevens.com/alstevens/tunes/mp3s/youtookadvantageofme.mp3 (http://www.alstevens.com/alstevens/tunes/mp3s/youtookadvantageofme.mp3)

[Dave Dolson]

Al: Again, very nice. I just love melody - and take-offs on melody that don't dazzle listeners with rapid technique, but rather stay well inside the box. Good job - very listenable. DAVE

[Al Stevens]

Looks like our old fogey tracks killed the thread, Dave. It sure got quiet in here.

[Dave Dolson]

I saw and thought the same thing!!! DAVE

[tjontheroad]

Looks like our old fogey tracks killed the thread, Dave. It sure got quiet in here.

I'm the one who started with the old timer stuff. Next, I hope to do something more current. Something funky I'm thinking of. Just to keep those whippersnappers in line :roll:

As always, nice stuff Al.

[Gandalfe]

Although I haven't replied much to this thread, I really like it. But it reminds me I haven't gotten my audio set up to record yet. I can do videos and audio with standard computer mics, but I have a two month old audio-technica AT2020 USB (http://search.live.com/products/?q=audio-technica%20at2020&p1=%5bCommerceService+scenario%3d%22s%22+docid%3d%228AE3C2E5822A6A2C9A9C%22+do%3d%221%22+p%3d%22c2c096c3dd814d3b9fd0da0ad260b4c4%22%5d&wf=Commerce&FORM=EEOP) (cardioid condenser) mic that I keep trying to figure out to hook up. It really isn't a slap in USB connector and it just works kind of thang.

Besides this thread my other favorite example of self recording/publishing is Mathew Stone's Youtube site (http://www.youtube.com/user/crazydaisydoo) and SaxOblog (http://crazydaisydoo.blogspot.com/). When I record myself, it really is a humbling exercise that usually leaves me very depressed.

Still I am intent on making this happen. So what do youse guys use for recording, especially if you use this kind of mic.

[Dave Dolson]

Jim: I don't (record myself, that is).

I have examples of my playing from various studio recordings I've made with bands over the years (LP's, audio-cassettes, and CD's).

A couple of years ago, a fan recorded me in my kitchen for a project on trad-jazz-improv (yet to be published). He had a smallish stereo-mic machine (I recall it was a digital recorder - maybe a Sony?) but the details are unknown to me. He transfered the audio to a CD for me. It turned out okay except for his commentary leading up to the start of a tune. I wish I could edit that out but alas, I don't know how.

I sympathize with your experiences with the results, though. On some recordings (mostly live, NOT in a studio), I wish my intonation was better (in tune with myself but NOT with the ensemble). I'm always conscious of that before a gig, trying to get in pitch with the piano, etc. When I hear some live recordings played back, I hit myself and wonder what in the heck I was thinking when I played THAT note!!! DAVE

[Gandalfe]

I use a video camera to post to YouTube and a zoom to record just audio. But I want to set up a recording system that is always ready to go so that I can record without having to set things up. And I want to use the computer to mix thangs.

I'm sure there is a decent way to do this for under $1000 but the guides I've seen talk about the options without really going into the merits of each hardware/software choice.

[Al Stevens]

I'm sure there is a decent way to do this for under $1000 but the guides I've seen talk about the options without really going into the merits of each hardware/software choice.
An old adage says, figure your budget, spend half that on a microphone, spend half on studio monitor speakers, and spend whatever is left over for a computer, software and a sound circuit.

[tjontheroad]

For these latest recordings I'm using a Mac, Garage Band, 300 gig external firewire drive, Focusrite Saffire audio interface / mic pre-amp with an AKG C1000S condenser mic. You could likely put together a similar rig for about 2 grand.


I also have Tascam DR-1 for portable use and Logic Pro for more complex recordings.

[Al Stevens]

XP, Sonar, an Aardvark DirectPro Q10 sound circuit, Yamaha NS-10M studio monitors, and a Shure M81 mic. The keyboard is a Kawai MP9000 going through an Oberheim Minigrand sound module. I do some postprocessing with Cool Edit Pro.

[tjontheroad]

I'm still working on the funky stuff. But, just so this thread doesn't get stale, here's something really old from a guy with a funky wig.

Click here for my website (http://web.me.com/tjontheroad1/tjontheroad1/Sinfonia_2nd_Movement.html)

or

My Soundclick Page (http://www.soundclick.com/bands/default.cfm?bandID=542012)



http://web.me.com/tjontheroad1/tjontheroad1/Sinfonia_2nd_Movement_files/Johann_Sebastian_Bach.jpg

[rleitch]

Hey Fellas!

Here's a very typical performance from yours truly. I was aiming for New Orleans, but landed somewhere just short of it I think.

Click here to watch Bearys-with-Tom (http://media.putfile.com/Bearys-with-Tom)

ps. the drummer can count to two, he just don't care!

[tjontheroad]

Just got done with recording a version of "Sir Duke" with clarinet, bass clarinet, alto sax, tenor sax, and some guitar. Thanks for listening.

website version here (http://web.me.com/tjontheroad1/tjontheroad1/Sir_Duke.html)

or

SoundClick.com here (http://www.soundclick.com/bands/default.cfm?bandID=542012&content=music)

[Ed Svoboda]

Sweet.

[tjontheroad]

Sweet.

Thanks Ed :)

I just put up a new video of "Birdland" on YouTube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRs3hWAjlYY

It's also up on my website (http://web.me.com/tjontheroad1/tjontheroad1/Birdland.html)

[saxplayer1004]

You sound good man.

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/default.cfm?bandID=945930&content=music

Ther'es the full recording from our concert on Friday night. I have a solo through Anthropology, one in Boplicity, and another in Caravan. I'm sitting bari chair.

[Gandalfe]

There's the full recording from our concert on Friday night. I have a solo through Anthropology, one in Boplicity, and another in Caravan. I'm sitting bari chair.Bari sounds good.

I just put up a new video of "Birdland" on YouTubeToo funny, I just put up some YouTubeage of Birdland (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPVAWCdB4BE) from this last weekend's practice. We used four players though. 8-)

Here's a chart Randy did last week or so. It was called Pavanne (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moT8nVAFVRE) and I liked it so much we did it this weekend too. We all had metal jazz mouthpieces on the instruments. I think we would be better served with rubber ones for this music.

[saxplayer1004]

Thanks Jim. Means a lot. All criticisms are welcome though. Anything that makes me a better player is a good thing.

[tjontheroad]

Too funny, I just put up some YouTubeage of Birdland (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPVAWCdB4BE) from this last weekend's practice. We used four players though. 8-)

Here's a chart Randy did last week or so. It was called Pavanne (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moT8nVAFVRE) and I liked it so much we did it this weekend too. We all had metal jazz mouthpieces on the instruments. I think we would be better served with rubber ones for this music.

Nice. It's a cool arrangement of Birdland. I've gotten into cloning myself. I did at least change shirts for each sax.

I like the brighter jazzy tone. Maybe just the bari should go with HR.

[tjontheroad]

You sound good man.

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/default.cfm?bandID=945930&content=music

Ther'es the full recording from our concert on Friday night. I have a solo through Anthropology, one in Boplicity, and another in Caravan. I'm sitting bari chair.

Swingin' good :cool:

[Al Stevens]

Nice tracks, all. Thanks. I'm glad to see this thread revived.

Gandalf, I've written a few sax quartet arrangements over the past couple of years. Our quartet performs them (not very well) in the community band concerts. If you are interested, send me a PM, and I'll send a list and then PDFs of the ones you might want to look at. I might have recordings of them, but I don't know where. I'll go in search.

TJ, I like your cloning effort. A guy on another list did that and found a way to use Windows Movie Maker to do split screen videos of himself playing with himself (so to speak).

I find it difficult to record ensemble wind arrangements alone as a clone. I miss the ability to watch other players and get visual clues. The blend isn't as good as I'd like it to be. You do a better job of that than I have been able to do.

[Al Stevens]

I have a different kind of cloning project underway. Piano-sax duos. I'm trying to recreate the essence of jam sessions we had as kids in our parlors. High school bandmates, my brothers and I would get together and play tunes to help us learn to play by ear. We gathered in the parlors of whomever had a piano and probably drove the rest of the family out of the house.

This project uses the tunes and styles we played then. We were influenced by the swing and dixieland jazz records of the times (the '50s), so my project tries to capture that sound. Back then I was listening to Ben Webster, Lester Young, and Bud Freeman on tenor and Teddy Wilson, Art Tatum, Fats Waller, and Mel Powell on piano. Mostly because those were the players on the jazz records in our house.

As I listen to the first cuts of the tunes, I can hear myself struggling to stay inside and not let later influences and idioms creep in.

Here's a couple of cuts from the first of my clone sessions. They are typical of the project.

http://www.alstevens.com/alstevens/tunes/mp3s/honeysucklerose.mp3
http://www.alstevens.com/alstevens/tunes/mp3s/memoriesofyou.mp3 (http://www.alstevens.com/alstevens/tunes/mp3s/memoriesofyou.mp3)

I'm interested in getting comments on the performances. I hear things in there that I'd like to change, and I want to learn whether others hear the same things and get new ideas, too. Also reinforcement about parts that you might find pleasing. Not for attaboys, but to learn what is working best from the vantage of the uninvolved listener.

Ignore the mix. If I do anything with this project, I'll need someone with better ears than mine to start from dry tracks and handle that part.

This online review process worked well for me on another discussion group when I made my first commercial CD, so I thought I'd try it here.

[Gandalfe]

Thanks Jim. Means a lot. All criticisms are welcome though. Anything that makes me a better player is a good thing.Well remember you asked and I'm not a pro. The band didn't jell it would seem. The sax soli's were stiff (listen to Al's latest post for a moving sound). So my question to you is, "Are you using your best player on alto sax?" If not why? By the way, I've felt this when listening to semi-pro and pro bands before. The lead alto has to sell it or the whole sax section is boring.

With a great lead alto even a mediocre sax section sounds better. Having your best player on lead tenor for a lot of charts means the weird part of the chord get emphasized. And the best sound is on a part that isn't important unless the fellow is soloing.

Could just be the recordings, who knows? But I didn't listen to all the pieces because something was missing. Al's charts though warranted playing over, and over, and over... 8-)

[tjontheroad]

TJ, I like your cloning effort. A guy on another list did that and found a way to use Windows Movie Maker to do split screen videos of himself playing with himself (so to speak).

I find it difficult to record ensemble wind arrangements alone as a clone. I miss the ability to watch other players and get visual clues. The blend isn't as good as I'd like it to be. You do a better job of that than I have been able to do.

Thanks Al. The split screen process takes more time to edit than I'd have at hand these days. Maybe, if I get a faster computer to speed up the compositing time required. I may get a faster one soon. Plus something with a viewing screen bigger than the little 12inch powerbook I use now would be a big help.

It is adding an extra level of difficulty doing this video as a clone. I help myself with this by first recording a rough version of all the parts with just audio. Then, I re-record the parts live with the video and new audio. I later mix and sync the new live audio with the matching video taking out the rough tracks. Now you (and everyone else) know how it's done :)

I posted this vid on SOTW and I'm getting grilled over their. Go figure :roll:

I have a different kind of cloning project underway. Piano-sax duos. I'm trying to recreate the essence of jam sessions we had as kids in our parlors. High school bandmates, my brothers and I would get together and play tunes to help us learn to play by ear. We gathered in the parlors of whomever had a piano and probably drove the rest of the family out of the house.

This project uses the tunes and styles we played then. We were influenced by the swing and dixieland jazz records of the times (the '50s), so my project tries to capture that sound. Back then I was listening to Ben Webster, Lester Young, and Bud Freeman on tenor and Teddy Wilson, Art Tatum, Fats Waller, and Mel Powell on piano. Mostly because those were the players on the jazz records in our house.

As I listen to the first cuts of the tunes, I can hear myself struggling to stay inside and not let later influences and idioms creep in.

Here's a couple of cuts from the first of my clone sessions. They are typical of the project.

http://www.alstevens.com/alstevens/tunes/mp3s/honeysucklerose.mp3
http://www.alstevens.com/alstevens/tunes/mp3s/memoriesofyou.mp3 (http://www.alstevens.com/alstevens/tunes/mp3s/memoriesofyou.mp3)

I'm interested in getting comments on the performances. I hear things in there that I'd like to change, and I want to learn whether others hear the same things and get new ideas, too. Also reinforcement about parts that you might find pleasing. Not for attaboys, but to learn what is working best from the vantage of the uninvolved listener.

Ignore the mix. If I do anything with this project, I'll need someone with better ears than mine to start from dry tracks and handle that part.

This online review process worked well for me on another discussion group when I made my first commercial CD, so I thought I'd try it here.

I not one to critique. I barely get by myself. The thing about your playing I always hear and admire is you strong sense of time. Both tracks have that. The only thing I heard that wasn't as good as everything else was some of first few notes in the second track didn't come out as strong. That said, it's all good.

[Al Stevens]

The only thing I heard that wasn't as good as everything else was some of first few notes in the second track didn't come out as strong. That said, it's all good.Thanks very much. That's just the kind of thing I need to hear. Assuming you refer to Honeysuckle Rose, I heard that too, and thought about either punching in a new first couple of lines or even just bumping the gain at that spot. But then I thought, maybe it's okay as is. Wrong.

I'm not always as aware as I should be about where the mic is, and I know I was sneaking into the tune more than I ought. The beginning of a tune should be strong. Wimpy lines don't get it.

[saxplayer1004]

Well remember you asked and I'm not a pro. The band didn't jell it would seem. The sax soli's were stiff (listen to Al's latest post for a moving sound). So my question to you is, "Are you using your best player on alto sax?" If not why? By the way, I've felt this when listening to semi-pro and pro bands before. The lead alto has to sell it or the whole sax section is boring.

With a great lead alto even a mediocre sax section sounds better. Having your best player on lead tenor for a lot of charts means the weird part of the chord get emphasized. And the best sound is on a part that isn't important unless the fellow is soloing.

Could just be the recordings, who knows? But I didn't listen to all the pieces because something was missing. Al's charts though warranted playing over, and over, and over... 8-)

Technically, I'm our best player, as far as solos go, our Lead Tenor has it covered. Our lead alto is a pretty good lead player, and he only plays alto so that's why he's there. I'm not really an alto player. I've been asked to play lead, but I wanted to stay on bari because it's too much fun, and I just got the newtome YBS-62 from bari_sax_diva, so I wanted to play that. I also play lead alto in the second band, and trombone 2 in the third. Didn't want to be a hog for parts, and I like to think I have a decent sound on bari, and it really seems like my instrument.

The micing was off. The guy running sound was actually parallel to the sax line, as were the monitors. Not exactly the ideal place to mix from, so the balance is off there.

Our trombones are real rough, especially the bottom 3 *using a split bass part* and the low trumpets are rough as well, which may be where the jelling is going off.

The solis are stiff, we know. The lead alto is not a jazz player, he's a classical guy. Great player, but has problems swinging, especially at the quick tempos. Both of the tenor players had problems getting all of the notes in the soli sections in Anthropology, and Count Bubba's Revenge.

Ok, enough excuses. Thanks for the criticism though, it gives us great stuff to work with for next year.

[tjontheroad]

Thanks very much. That's just the kind of thing I need to hear. Assuming you refer to Honeysuckle Rose, I heard that too, and thought about either punching in a new first couple of lines or even just bumping the gain at that spot. But then I thought, maybe it's okay as is. Wrong.

I'm not always as aware as I should be about where the mic is, and I know I was sneaking into the tune more than I ought. The beginning of a tune should be strong. Wimpy lines don't get it.

Memories of You (your 2nd posting) is the tune I was referring to. Something about the tone in first few lines isn't as rich as the rest of the song. Like the reed isn't wet enough or you adjusted your embouchure later on. I had to listen a second time to pick it up. If I'd heard it live, it would have been forgotten quickly.

[Al Stevens]

Memories of You (your 2nd posting) is the tune I was referring to. Something about the tone in first few lines isn't as rich as the rest of the song. Like the reed isn't wet enough or you adjusted your embouchure later on.
Oh. I can't quite hear that. ("I was born with a cheap set of ears."*) How far into the track does it sound like that?

I do hear a distinctly different tone in the C1 that ends the verse and the C1 that starts the first chorus. Perhaps that's because I recorded the sax part of the rubatto verse a cappela and added the piano accompaniment afterwards. So the choruses are recorded at a different time from the verse. Might even be a different reed.


*Arthur Hunnicut on the Twilight Zone

[Gandalfe]

The solis are stiff, we know. The lead alto is not a jazz player, he's a classical guy. Great player, but has problems swinging, especially at the quick tempos. Both of the tenor players had problems getting all of the notes in the soli sections in Anthropology, and Count Bubba's Revenge.

Ok, enough excuses. Thanks for the criticism though, it gives us great stuff to work with for next year.It wasn't bad, I should be in a band as good, but it wasn't great. The sound just seemed... well, pedistrian for a college jazz band. Having a lead alto who's mostly a classical guy is exactly what I'm talking about.

[saxplayer1004]

It wasn't bad, I should be in a band as good, but it wasn't great. The sound just seemed... well, pedistrian for a college jazz band. Having a lead alto who's mostly a classical guy is exactly what I'm talking about.

The biggest problem we have is that there is no music major at our school, and none of our music faculty are sax players. Only the lead tenor and myself have had private lessons since high school, which hurts us a lot. Our director is a very good trombone player, and great jazz instructor, but he knows his limits to trying to teach sax playing. We're all good enough to get the technical aspect out, but having a sax teacher would help a lot.

I've heard some stuff from the MS jazz band. You guys aren't bad for a bunch of engineers. Hell, that's exactly what our band is. Whole sax line are either mechanical or electric engineers.

[Gandalfe]

I've heard some stuff from the MS jazz band. You guys aren't bad for a bunch of engineers. Hell, that's exactly what our band is. Whole sax line are either mechanical or electric engineers.There are at least 5 music majors in the MSJ (http://www.gandalfe.net/mjb.htm) at any given concert. Two are from Berkelee and believe you me, with as little as we practice, that doesn't hurt. 8-)

[Al Stevens]

Time to resuscitate this thread. I was poking around my hard drive and found this track recorded a couple of years ago.

http://www.alstevens.com/alstevens/tunes/mp3s/dontblameme.mp3

I wish I'd written down which horn and mpc I used. I prefer the tone to what I'm getting now.

[Dave Dolson]

Al: Really liked the edgy, dreamy tenor tone. I didn't go back and try to compare it to other things you've posted, but this one was nice.

However, the bass was distracting for me. It sounded metallic - almost groan-like. To my ears, there's nothing like a superbly played acoustic double-bass violin - no amplification, just let the instrument speak its own voice. This one didn't sound that way to me. DAVE

[Al Stevens]

However, the bass was distracting for me. It sounded metallic - almost groan-like. To my ears, there's nothing like a superbly played acoustic double-bass violin - no amplification, just let the instrument speak its own voice. This one didn't sound that way to me. DAVE

That's what happens when a deaf guy mixes his own tracks. :)

[Gandalfe]

That's what happens when a deaf guy mixes his own tracks. :)Deaf from playing in loud bands? There but for the grace of gawd goes any of us.

[Al Stevens]

Deaf from playing in loud bands? There but for the grace of gawd goes any of us.
I have logged a lot of bandstand time with big bands and dixieland bands. But the doc told me years ago my hearing loss was probably caused by all those hours flying old crates without using earplugs. They didn't tell us back then we ought to wear protection. Same thing with firearms.

[tjontheroad]

Time to revive this thread :grin:

I gotta new video up of "Skylark". Sorry, no alto clarinet just yet. Will do in the next video just in time for the holidays.

http://www.youtube.com/user/tjontheroad#p/a

[Al Stevens]

Adding some tunes to my project described earlier in this thread:

http://www.alstevens.com/alstevens/tunes/mp3s/moonglow.mp3 (http://www.alstevens.com/alstevens/tunes/mp3s/moonglow.mp3)

Whenever I play Moonglow, I can see Kim Novak coming down those stairs at the park pavillion. Every guy in school was in love with her.

http://www.alstevens.com/alstevens/tunes/mp3s/tenderly.mp3 (http://www.alstevens.com/alstevens/tunes/mp3s/tenderly.mp3)

I played Tenderly on piano in a high school talent show.

http://www.alstevens.com/alstevens/tunes/mp3s/talkofthetown.mp3 (http://www.alstevens.com/alstevens/tunes/mp3s/talkofthetown.mp3)

Talk of the Town is a tribute to my high school piano playing pal, Charlie Baxter. We were playing this tune at a dance, and he made the unexpected modulation to G during my trumpet solo. I got lost. I play the modulation now just to remember Charlie.

http://www.alstevens.com/alstevens/tunes/mp3s/justyoujustme.mp3 (http://www.alstevens.com/alstevens/tunes/mp3s/justyoujustme.mp3)

My high school band director, Mr. Steinbach, was also a jazz pianist. He used Just You Just Me to demonstrate how many different tunes use the same chord changes.

As usual, comments are welcome.

[Gandalfe]

Al, are you playing piano on all of these?

[Al Stevens]

Al, are you playing piano on all of these?
Yes. Piano and tenor.

[Al Stevens]

An exercise in how difficult it is to play very slow tempos. This tune was my closing song every evening at my first professional piano lounge job in D.C. right out of high school.

http://www.alstevens.com/alstevens/tunes/mp3s/oneformybaby.mp3 (http://www.alstevens.com/alstevens/tunes/mp3s/oneformybaby.mp3)

[Al Stevens]

Come on, folks. Get back into the studio and add to this thread. I went back and listened to all the earlier postings. Some really good stuff, so I tried to resuscitate the thread yet another time. The silence is deafening. Was it something I played? :-)

[Gandalfe]

How 'bout an alto sax solo in a strange arrangement of "Fiddler on the Roof (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FezwXiSb_co)" I may have posted this elsewhere I don't remember. I start the short solo at minute mark 5:28.

In the next recording of "Prelude in C (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxKuOEMa2QY)" by Chopin I a try playing the soprano. I now have official established my status as hobbyist with a long way to go. 8-)

[tjontheroad]

Come on, folks. Get back into the studio and add to this thread. I went back and listened to all the earlier postings. Some really good stuff, so I tried to resuscitate the thread yet another time. The silence is deafening. Was it something I played? :-)

Hey Al,

I noticed your new tunes the other day. just had no time listen yet. I getting hitched this week :) so lots lots of family stuff happening. I posted my version of Skylark in another thread. I tried posting it here first. But, for some reason it said I didn't have permission at the time? Here's the video;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJrR_6h3beI

I'll listen to your stuff when I can get a half second to myself. Looking forward to it.

[Al Stevens]

How 'bout an alto sax solo in a strange arrangement of "Fiddler on the Roof (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FezwXiSb_co)".
I prefer that "strange arrangement" to the one our community band (http://communitybandofbrevard.org/) did in the 9/13 concert. It is a medley of only the dance tunes from the show. Nobody recognized most of them and everything was in a minor key. Depressing.

In the next recording of "Prelude in C (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxKuOEMa2QY)" by Chopin I a try playing the soprano. I now have official established my status as hobbyist with a long way to go. 8-)
Join the club. I stopped going there and sold my soprano. For you, I think a touch of classical-style vibrato would help. By the way, that's Prelude in C minor. You had me wondering. I play both preludes on piano (or used to) and could not imagine an instrumental version of the Prelude in C. Very pianistic piece.

http://www.8notes.com/scores/2703.asp

It's doable, I suppose, and I'd like to hear it, but I think the flow of the piece depends on a two-handed keyboard approach. It's my favorite of the Chopin preludes.

[Al Stevens]

TJ, there are places in the melody (1st chorus) of Skylark where you rush the line of a phrase. In at least one place you do it in unison with the guitar. It doesn't sound like an improvisation or interpretation. It sounds like a mistake, but you repeat it in the clip. I suggest that you look at a sheet and get the head down. It also helps to know the lyrics. The meter of a melody matches the lyrics, and knowing them helps you interpret the melody.

I wonder where you got the harmonization for the 5th measure (Dmi7 - G7). It's the same changes I play; I got them off a Getz recording years ago. The way Hoagy wrote it is not very good, and the way most chordal players changed it is not as pleasing (to my ear) as how we play it.

Hoagy's changes in the bridge are awful. Jazz players fixed that shortly after he published it. :-)

Here's a clip I made of Skylark several years ago.

http://www.alstevens.com/alstevens/tunes/mp3s/skylark.mp3

(Pay no attention to those 5th bar changes the first time. I must have been trying something else.)

[tjontheroad]

Al,

Thanks for listening. I used the v32 "Ballads" Aebersold book for the changes. I did listen to a few vocal versions of this tune. Each one had a pretty wide interpretations from each other. I just went with a feel that sounded cool for me. They say if you repeat a mistake it's no longer wrong in music. Right ;) To quote Pee Wee Herman, "I meant to do that".

I can't hear your version where I am right now. Will do later.

[Al Stevens]

To quote Pee Wee Herman, "I meant to do that".
And we all know where that got him... :grin:

[tjontheroad]

Al,

I gave a listen through your project postings. All very nice playing on both tenor and piano. Just some ideas for you. In "Moonglow", play some more improv with the head early. For me, it gets a bit stale until you start jammin'. For "Tenderly", the piano needs more breathing room to let the tenor come through. It's somewhat busy and distracting. Let the piano build up as the track goes. "Talk of the Town" is just fine like is. I like the modulation. Don't change a thing. You're swinging hard with "Just You Just Me". How about getting some drums and bass with it? That would be awesome.

Again, high compliments to the chef overall :grin:

btw, Pee Wee was on Jay Leno last week. Guess he's on a comeback :twisted:

[Al Stevens]

Thanks for the comments, TJ. This project has no bass/drums. Sax/piano duo in the spirit of the tracks that Satch and Fatha Hines made in the 1920s.

Re: the busy piano player. Don't tell him. He gets sensitive. Seriously, it's a challenge to record an accompaniment track in the dark (without the horn playing). Nothing to play off of. But, something has to go first. I might re-record some of the accompaniments when I have all the tunes laid down.

[tjontheroad]

I know what you're saying about compin' without the head. I played and recorded the guitar part many times over before I had a take I liked and felt I could play the sax along with. At least the bass part was not as hard get down. I did that first and used it as my anchor.

[tjontheroad]

Thread bump with a new video doing "Detour Ahead";

http://www.youtube.com/user/tjontheroad

anyboby else here have some tracks to share?

[Al Stevens]

anyboby else here have some tracks to share?Coincidence. I just recorded Detour Ahead a day or two ago. Hak is helping me find a recording setup that doesn't make the tenor sound as harsh. I'll be redoing the sax track soon with a different setup and microphone. Then, I hope, Hak will do some magic with the audio.

http://www.playalongstudio.com/tunes/detouraheadsax.mp3 (http://www.playalongstudio.com/tunes/detouraheadsax.mp3)

I hear lots of phrasing issues in this that I want to address, too.

[tjontheroad]

Coincidence? Not really :) It's the tune of the month. Your backing track is pretty sweet sounding to go along your tenor. Hak's soprano version is also well worth the listen too.

Nice work as always Al.

[Gandalfe]

Hak's soprano version is also well worth the listen too.What, no linkee?

[tjontheroad]

What, no linkee?

Here you go;
http://www.soundclick.com/bands/default.cfm?bandID=756282&content=music

He's also has an alto version that's plenty tasty.

[Gandalfe]

Man, I could listen to Hak all day. Players like that are the reason I rarely post audio of my solos. 8-)

[tjontheroad]

Man, I could listen to Hak all day. Players like that are the reason I rarely post audio of my solos. 8-)

Yeah, listening to guys like that makes want to quit my job and shred all day. Or, quit playing all together

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[Al Stevens]

I rerecorded Detour Ahead using some of the recording techniques that Hak recommended. And an RPC mouthpiece that I like better.

http://www.playalongstudio.com/tunes/detouraheadsax.mp3 (http://www.playalongstudio.com/tunes/detouraheadsax.mp3)

Also, here's the backing track for anyone interested in using it.

http://www.playalongstudio.com/tunes/detourahead.mp3 (http://www.playalongstudio.com/tunes/detouraheadsax.mp3)

[Al Stevens]

Hak is a magician in addition to a musician. He did some abracadabra to my track, and this is the result, which replaces the puny-sounding previous upload.

http://www.playalongstudio.com/tunes/detouraheadsax.mp3 (http://www.playalongstudio.com/tunes/detouraheadsax.mp3)

I wish I could play like that. :)

[tjontheroad]

Al, you get a deeper spread tone with the RPC than what I've heard from you before. I like it :lol:

[Al Stevens]

Al, you get a deeper spread tone with the RPC than what I've heard from you before. I like it :lol:

Thanks. If you listen to some of the earlier posts of mine on this thread (the piano/sax duo stuff), you'll hear a lot of the RPC. The spread you hear now is, I think, a function of hakmagic.

Except that I don't know what "spread" means. :)

[Gandalfe]

Except that I don't know what "spread" means.Maybe it means Phatt! :twisted:

[tjontheroad]

Thanks. If you listen to some of the earlier posts of mine on this thread (the piano/sax duo stuff), you'll hear a lot of the RPC. The spread you hear now is, I think, a function of hakmagic.

Except that I don't know what "spread" means. :)

Well, I was listening to the Skylark version you'd had done as a comparison. Reading back, I see you recorded that long ago. By spread I mean to say there's more bottom end to go along with the focused mid range tone you get. This very well could be a recording technic improvement. I guess I never know unless I hear you in person. That be nice one day 8-)

[saxmanglen]

posted this on SOTW and thought I'd put it up here at TWWF too.


I had a fun Jazz gig last night.

Evidence is in the video below!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNYT2uRww5M


And, YES....that is a 12 year old on drums.

MY 12 year old daughter captured the video. :)

[Dave Dolson]

Glen: Good to see (and hear) you're still at it. DAVE

[saxmanglen]

Dave,

Thanks for giving a listen and saying hi. I'm still playing with the 9 piece group at the Madonna Inn monthly as well as playing more frequently in smaller groups.

Glen

[Dave Dolson]

Good. I've been with the Golden Eagle Jazz Band for several years now. We play two Sundays per month a Steamers Cafe, in Fullerton, among other gigs. DAVE

[Gandalfe]

Still looking forward to seeing that video Dave. Good job Glen. 8-)

[saxmanglen]

Still looking forward to seeing that video Dave. Good job Glen. 8-)

Thanks, Jim!

[Dave Dolson]

Jim: What video? I'll bet Paul Woltz has some videos of the Golden Eagles from years back.

There is a DVD available of the band before I joined - featuring their vocalist Chris Norris, who passed away several years ago from cancer. She was sensational (Paul can verify that). If you want details, PM me. DAVE

[tjontheroad]

Glen,

You guys are having fun for sure :)

Here's a nutty video I just finished...
http://www.youtube.com/user/tjontheroad#p/a/u/0/geQRJUzllLc

[rleitch]

Here's the final mix of a rock song I played on last Summer. One take for the shots and two for the solo. I was using a rented YTS-23. Whatcha think?

http://www.esnips.com/doc/4e56d729-10c9-4f0b-aff1-8ed71333924e/First-World-Blues-final-mix

[Dave Dolson]

Rory: The link wouldn't work for me. Said "broken link". DAVE

[hakukani]

Here's the final mix of a rock song I played on last Summer. One take for the shots and two for the solo. I was using a rented YTS-23. Whatcha think?

http://www.esnips.com/doc/4e56d729-10c9-4f0b-aff1-8ed71333924e/First-World-Blues-final-mix

Link not working

[rleitch]

weird...works on mine? Oh well--it's not that great anyway! :)

http://www.esnips.com/doc/4e56d729-10c9-4f0b-aff1-8ed71333924e/First-World-Blues-final-mix

[saxmanglen]

weird...works on mine? Oh well--it's not that great anyway! :)

http://www.esnips.com/doc/4e56d729-10c9-4f0b-aff1-8ed71333924e/First-World-Blues-final-mix



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[saxmanglen]

Glen,

You guys are having fun for sure :)

Here's a nutty video I just finished...
http://www.youtube.com/user/tjontheroad#p/a/u/0/geQRJUzllLc


That's only the second time we've done the "Experiment". I'm sure we'll have more fun the longer the gig runs.

Some funny stuff in your video mike. Very creative!

[rleitch]

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Seems like the way the site is truncating the link is the problem? I'm uploading to a site called esnips.com. I copy the full URL but then something happens when I paste it in. Maybe I'll look for a different website?

Rory

[tictactux]

Seems like the way the site is truncating the link is the problem? I'm uploading to a site called esnips.com. I copy the full URL but then something happens when I paste it in. Maybe I'll look for a different website?

Rory

This is not the problem. But you must share your files first, else others cannot see them. I see "0 shared folders" under your profile, if it's name is the same as your handle in here.

(And while you are logged in, you will probably use quite a different url than others when they're downloading your stuff)

[rleitch]

This is not the problem. But you must share your files first, else others cannot see them. I see "0 shared folders" under your profile, if it's name is the same as your handle in here.

(And while you are logged in, you will probably use quite a different url than others when they're downloading your stuff)

Excellent! Thank you!

(I wasn't trying for a big build up, but here goes...)

http://www.esnips.com/doc/4e56d729-10c9-4f0b-aff1-8ed71333924e/First-World-Blues-final-mix

[hakukani]

That did it. I listened. Nice mix. Your solo was much better than the electric piano's. I'd have cut that.;-)

[tjontheroad]

That's only the second time we've done the "Experiment". I'm sure we'll have more fun the longer the gig runs.

Some funny stuff in your video mike. Very creative!

Thanks Glen. But, who's Mike? I think you have me confused with Face Ache :confused:

Here's the final mix of a rock song I played on last Summer. One take for the shots and two for the solo. I was using a rented YTS-23. Whatcha think?

http://www.esnips.com/doc/4e56d729-10c9-4f0b-aff1-8ed71333924e/First-World-Blues-final-mix

Rory, I liked your playing and wanted to hear more earlier in the tune. Who needs piano anyway (sorry Al) :lol:

[rleitch]

Rory, I liked your playing and wanted to hear more earlier in the tune. Who needs piano anyway (sorry Al) :lol:

That did it. I listened. Nice mix. Your solo was much better than the electric piano's. I'd have cut that.;-)


Thanks fellas!

I really had no idea what was going on in this song: I did it over the bed and guitar tracks while I was on vacation last summer.

[saxmanglen]

Sorry TJ, that was a slip up on my part.

I had been on the other forum and had "Mike on the brain" for some reason. :shock:

[saxmanglen]

A buddy of my dropped in at one of my gigs yesterday and tried out his new Zoom Q3 recorder. This is a little trio I have that does a few "pick up" gigs here or there.

Sorry for the sloppy playing my be. http://forum.saxontheweb.net/images/smilies/neutral.gif<object height="344" width="425">


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[tjontheroad]

I finally got around to doing a video with the alto clarinet. Is geek the new cool? I don't know but I'm all for it :-D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L04_Vwc_A_E


Thanks for watching,
TJ

[Gandalfe]

Tj, I luv your recordings. I think this is the first time I've heard you play the clarinet, but I could be wrong.

I don't know if it is the recording equipment or you, but your sound reminds me of a sax doubler first starting out on clarinet. It is pinched and doesn't sound supported with enough air flow. It's a little better on the clarinet than on the alto.

That said, I haven't put a recording up of me on clarinet which I hope to do soon. It took me over a year to come out of the closet with my bass clarinet. I would think I sounded great and then my wife, the real clarinetist would play and I'd go back to long tones!

I suspect one or two lessons with a clarinet teacher would open up the sound. I luv to hear what some of the teachers on this forum will say.

[tjontheroad]

Tj, I luv your recordings. I think this is the first time I've heard you play the clarinet, but I could be wrong.

I don't know if it is the recording equipment or you, but your sound reminds me of a sax doubler first starting out on clarinet. It is pinched and doesn't sound supported with enough air flow. It's a little better on the clarinet than on the alto.

That said, I haven't put a recording up of me on clarinet which I hope to do soon. It took me over a year to come out of the closet with my bass clarinet. I would think I sounded great and then my wife, the real clarinetist would play and I'd go back to long tones!

I suspect one or two lessons with a clarinet teacher would open up the sound. I luv to hear what some of the teachers on this forum will say.

Sorry, I didn't see your post here before. Although I answered the same one you posted on my youtube video comments. I do agree with you. I love the clarinet. I just don't have enough hours in the day to get practicing it.

Thanks for watching.

TJ

[tjontheroad]

I've got a new video up of the Horace Silver tune "Barbara". If'n ya' like comic books, this is for you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smFjUqJehLA

[sideC]

I finally got around to doing a video with the alto clarinet. Is geek the new cool? I don't know but I'm all for it :-D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L04_Vwc_A_E


Thanks for watching,
TJ

TJ....man, I smiled all the way through that. My hat is off to your creativity, and you always manage to get a whimsical vibe with your work. I'm sure that Mal Waldron would be happy with how you presented his tune.

Julian

[tjontheroad]

TJ....man, I smiled all the way through that. My hat is off to your creativity, and you always manage to get a whimsical vibe with your work. I'm sure that Mal Waldron would be happy with how you presented his tune.

Julian

Thanks Julian. I love the tune as well. I'm always wanting to make it fun :lol:

TJ

[tjontheroad]

No action in this thread for awhile ;(

Here's a take of Over The Rainbow (a.k.a. Rainbow over Guitar) I did today just for giggles

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_songInfo.cfm?bandID=542012&songID=8799260

Come on guys!!! Let's hear some of your stuff.

[Gandalfe]

Note, some people think I come across as harsh. That is not my intent, but I do tend to focus on areas to work on more than what is already good in a performance. I am not a professiona and do not play one on TV.

TJ, are you taking lessons on the sax? You have great timing, but the sound is a little weak, something that I've been concentrating on for the last three months. I suspect it's about the airstream and vocalization of the notes. If you lived near Seattle, I'd give you some ideas including the dreaded long tone exercise (must be done correctly), blowing the sax against the wall, hot air on the mirror, singing in the car using the diaphram, etc. A good instructor or playing partner could work with you on these and within a short amount of time, you'd be making progress.

Personally I think I'm doing great until I record and listen to myself. It's a very humbling experience. But with the help of my instructors, I'm slowly making progress; progress I would not make if were not taking lessons.

[tjontheroad]

Jim, I don't think you're being harsh. Your sharing your experience. That's cool :8

I was taking lessons for 3 1/2 years with Tim Price up till last year. I decided to take a break for awhile. I've spent the last 6 months or so just reviewing all the stuff we went over. Really working on the lessons I should already know. One of which is my timing. I guess that's starting to come together. Dynamics is another area I'm working on. The track may sound thin to you because I'm playing very softy at first. I'm typically full on and tend to overblow by nature. So, this is good for me go the other way. Still need better air support on those soft tones.

While I will restart my lessons sometime soon, I feel like I'm getting allot out this review thing I'm doing. The recordings are all a part of listening for signs of progress. Thanks for listening and comments,

TJ

[saxmanglen]

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[Gandalfe]

While I will restart my lessons sometime soon, I feel like I'm getting allot out this review thing I'm doing. The recordings are all a part of listening for signs of progress.Are you playing with a community band or live combo. I think that's where the learning really starts.

[Gandalfe]

Glenn, I was listening this morning to some of your recordings and thinking that youse guys were really having fun. For me it's really about the people I perform with. If'n they are friends, life is good. If they are too serious, well let's just admit that I don't do too many of those kind of gigs.

My 4 horn combo the Dissonance starts up in May for one gig this year. Another group fell through so we need to cover the gig. Hopefully the recordings will be good enough to post. And I mean that on a number of levels. 8-)

[saxmanglen]

Jim,

The bass player, Bill Wingfield, asked me last Fall if I'd help him with a "Jazz Experiment" group to get his 12 year old son (drums) more opportunities to play. The original group was/is more of a workshop environment where others who want to work on their jazz chops can come and sit in. It's hard finding an all ages venue that will allow him to play.

The "Jazz Experience" ended up being an offshoot of that group when we got a monthly gig at the Inn at Morro Bay. The guitar player used to do a bunch of TV and Movie music writing/playing as a session player in LA. He and the bass player have several VERY high caliber musician friends that tend to show up and sit in.

Bill released a CD last year with many West Coast musicians.
https://www.cdbaby.com/cd/wingfield

Bill's dad was visiting from Northern California and sang a tune with us Saturday. Making, 3 generations of Wingfield's performing jazz. It's on my youtube page.

A VERY cool night, indeed!

[tjontheroad]

Are you playing with a community band or live combo. I think that's where the learning really starts.

I just joined another community band on clarinet. I also started looking another band for sax.


@ Glenn, looked like a fun night.

[saxmanglen]

Thanks for listening TJ.

I just got asked to play at a winery Saturday afternoon with the bass player from above, a drummer and guitar player. Should be fun. Also, Saturday night is my monthly big band gig.

The group posted above will be playing May 1 at the same Venue. I'm, actually, pretty busy the next 2 weekends. :)

[WoodwindDoubler]

Hey everyone,

Here is my first posted recording EVER on any site! LOL

http://www.sarahdale.ca/music/theincredibles.mp3


This is transcription, arrangement, orchestration, re-orchestration (you know everything and the kitchen sink) of some of my favourite music from Pixar's the Incredibles.

I originally performed this arrangement on my final recital last year and thought it would be fun to record it.

Hope you enjoy it!

~Sarah

==============================================

In case inquiring minds want to know here is the line-up:

Alto 1 - Andy Ballantyne -- (solo 4)
Alto 2 - Ryan Grist
Tenor 1 - Sarah Dale (me) -- (solo 2)
Tenor 2 - Jon Wong
Bari - Colleen Allen

Trumpet 1 - Steve Crowe -- (solo 3)
Trumpet 2 - Klaus Anselm
Trumpet 3 - Andrew McAnsh
Trumpet 4 - Lindsi Jennings

Bone 1 - Emily Ferrell
Bone 2 - Andrew Ludtke
Bone 3 - Rich Reid
Bass Bone - Michael Manchur

Guitar - Emily Burgess
Piano - Jesse Whiteley -- (solo 1)
Bass - Mike Archer
Drums - Lindsay Beaver

Recording Engineer - Nathan Moore
Mixing Engineer - Reuben Ghose
Mastering Engineer - Jeff Elliot

Produced by: Olivier Clements, Garrett Hack, Sarah Dale

[Gandalfe]

Way tasty stuff Sarah. For some reason I thought you were in High School, but this music immediately made me realize that you were in college. Thanks for sharing. I wonder if I'll be buying music from you some time in the future. 8-)

'kay, so after listening to this four times now, how do I get the arrangement?

[WoodwindDoubler]

Way tasty stuff Sarah. For some reason I thought you were in High School, but this music immediately made me realize that you were in college.

Thanks! This is one of the tracks from my 4th year final project. :o)

Actually I am 7 days from finishing my Degree!

[WoodwindDoubler]

'kay, so after listening to this four times now, how do I get the arrangement?

It makes me happy to hear other people digging it. Since it's my arrangement, I guess the only place to get it from is me. :biggrin: lol

[Jacques5646]

Brilliant ! Extremely professional, in the great tradition of the Mancini and al, swinging rhythm section and some real good soloes. Bravo.
J

[tjontheroad]

Sarah,

That made my Saturday morning. Enjoyed much :grin:

[WoodwindDoubler]

Sarah,

That made my Saturday morning. Enjoyed much :grin:

Brilliant ! Extremely professional, in the great tradition of the Mancini and al, swinging rhythm section and some real good soloes. Bravo.
J


Thanks guys! Means a lot. :o)

[tictactux]

's no good. Has no clarinets. :cry:

Seriously: A very professional arrangement, setup, performance and recording. Swings, rocks my boat. Well done!

[saxmanglen]

Sarah,

VERY nice!
Thanks for posting.

If you end up writing more charts and want/need a publisher, I've got a friend who does music publishing here on the West Coast. I'd be happy to put you in touch with him.

http://www.walrusmusic.com/

[sideC]

Well written and performed, and you took a cool sounding tenor solo. But I'm most impressed with the fact that you took the time and expense to do a very professional mixing and mastering job on your recording. The sound quality is top notch....a most important ingredient in the making of a sucessful recording.

Congratulations!

Julian

[tictactux]

If you end up writing more charts and want/need a publisher, I've got a friend who does music publishing here on the West Coast. I'd be happy to put you in touch with him.

And if you need a band with a harmony lineup for beta-testing, gimme a honk. We're always looking for stuff that hasn't been played to death. :-)

[WoodwindDoubler]

Sounds great guys! I'll definitely keep that in mind as i keep working on my writing chops!

[tjontheroad]

Here's a quick shot at the tune "Wave".

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_songInfo.cfm?bandID=542012&songID=9069316

Backing me on bass and guitar. BIAB for drums and synth.

[Groovekiller]

A few months ago, I played baritone sax on a big band recording session with drummer/composer/arranger/conductor Frank Derrick. The CD received several Grammy nominations, and no, we didn't win.

The band doesn't work often but last weekend we did, and it reminded me of how good the CD sounded. We recorded it the hard way, all at once with no overdubs.

I got a baritone solo on the title track "The Beat Goes on." The trumpet soloist is Chris LaBarbera. Check it out:

http://www.mediafire.com/?zmyozzjlmho

[Frankfu]

:Space4::Space4:I prefer that "strange arrangement" to the one our community band (http://communitybandofbrevard.org/ (http://communitybandofbrevard.org/)) did in the 9/13 concert. It is a medley of only the dance tunes from the show. Nobody recognized most of them and everything was in a minor key. Depressing.


Join the club. I stopped going there and . For you, I think a touch of classical-style vibrato would help. By the way, that's Prelude in C minor. You had me wondering. I play both preludes on piano (or used to) and could not imagine an instrumental version of the Prelude in C. Very pianistic piece.

http://www.8notes.com/scores/2703.asp (http://www.8notes.com/scores/2703.asp)

It's doable, I suppose, and I'd like to hear it, but I think the flow of the piece depends on a two-handed keyboard approach. It's my favorite of the Chopin preludes.:Space4::Space4:

[WoodwindDoubler]

The trumpet soloist is Chris LaBarbera.]

Any relation to Joe, John and Pat Labarbera???

[Groovekiller]

No relation to the other great LaBarberas.

[bar-ron]

http://soundcloud.com/bari-ron

Here are a few sound clips from our Spring Concert, 1923 Conn Bass Zinner mp.

[Groovekiller]

A few months ago, I played baritone sax on a big band recording session with drummer/composer/arranger/conductor Frank Derrick. The CD received several Grammy nominations, and no, we didn't win.

The band doesn't work often but last weekend we did, and it reminded me of how good the CD sounded. We recorded it the hard way, all at once with no overdubs.

I got a baritone solo on the title track "The Beat Goes on." The trumpet soloist is Chris LaBarbera. Check it out:

http://www.mediafire.com/?zmyozzjlmho


I forgot to credit some great players:
First (Lead trumpet) solo is Augie Haas, trombone solo (no solo microphone - played from the section) is John Kricker. Produced by top 40 hit master arranger Mike Lewis. This track was recorded at about 2 AM. The trumpets were fried, and so was I, but I still like it. Pros are pros.

[sideC]

Groovekiller, nice solo, very funky story being told. That band sounds like a lot of veterans who know how to lay down that '60s type groove.

I worked with Frank Derrick in the Cab Calloway Orch back in the day. Frank was a very sweet guy who would bring his whole family to the gig every night when we worked in the NYC area. As a matter of fact, his dad, Frank Sr., played alto and clarinet in the band at that time. Glad to hear that Frank Jr is still active.

Julian

[Gandalfe]

Tasty arrangement, very nice bari line at 1:25, solo at 2:10, and duet at the end. The trumpets solid and the band provides a totally professional performance. Nice share and a very good listen.

[Groovekiller]

Groovekiller, nice solo, very funky story being told. That band sounds like a lot of veterans who know how to lay down that '60s type groove.

I worked with Frank Derrick in the Cab Calloway Orch back in the day. Frank was a very sweet guy who would bring his whole family to the gig every night when we worked in the NYC area. As a matter of fact, his dad, Frank Sr., played alto and clarinet in the band at that time. Glad to hear that Frank Jr is still active.

Julian

Frank's dad is unfortunately no longer with us. However, his mother was present at the recording session and hung in until the end. She used to give clarinet lessons to Johnny Griffin!

[tjontheroad]

Posted today a reggae version of "Angel Eyes". Comments welcome. Thanks for listening.

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_songInfo.cfm?bandID=542012&songID=9205237