eBay Deal o' the Moment

[pete]

Or "auction-site deal." With the unspoken, "... which I didn't bid on," of course .

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EDIT on 07/22/2012:
I just wanted to mention a couple things.

The main reason I started this thread is to post nice horns that I found to be interesting, rare or just a really good buy -- hey, I trawl eBay and other websites almost weekly. That means I may come across something that you haven't.

I do want other folks to contribute, but please make sure what you're posting is interesting, rare and/or a really good buy. Additionally, restrict yourself to professional model horns. Finally, please do not post your own auctions in this thread.

I really don't mind if you post your auction(s) in the "For Sale" area if you're a member here and you've fulfilled the qualifications for posting there. (Please post in one (1) thread if you've got lots of items, though.)

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Original Post:

William S. Haynes silver flute. $226.

While I'm somewhat far from being a flute expert, with the exception being Claude Laurent, but I do know that Haynes flutes aren't cheap. Serial number (27400) = 1958 or 1959.

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Edit on 6-22-12: Sold for $900. Someone got a very good deal.

[Carl H.]

Bidding Time Left:
7 days 18 hours +

$312.00 Current Bid

[pete]

The Goodwill 'site has actually had a number of nice horns on it. Helen and I generally have swapped various links.

They don't generally have pro horns, but I've seen a number of Yamaha student horns.

[gurzil]

Already a bid on this Coolsma alto recorder,

http://www.shopgoodwill.com/auctions...-10078720.html

but I will be watching obsessing.

[Carl H.]

Already a bid on this Coolsma alto recorder,

http://www.shopgoodwill.com/auctions...-10078720.html

but I will be watching obsessing.

really?

[gurzil]

really?

For that price, yeah. It seems to be a low-end-decent wood recorder, and I am interested in recorder construction. I would enjoy trying to make a new block. But no, I would not go much higher than that.

[kevgermany]

Take a look at this:

http://www.ebay.de/itm/150842736699?...84.m1438.l2649


Tatty old thing. It's actually an Evette, afik. Look through the bidding (yes I was there for a while). Just wonder if the two newbies thought it'd make them sound like Jan Garbarek...

[pete]

Take a look at this:

http://www.ebay.de/itm/150842736699?...84.m1438.l2649

Tatty old thing. It's actually an Evette, afik. Look through the bidding (yes I was there for a while). Just wonder if the two newbies thought it'd make them sound like Jan Garbarek...

Actually, I'm not sure that there were Evette-branded sopranos in that era. I've only seen alto, tenor and bari. Admittedly, I haven't been looking that hard, as the Evette line -- at the time -- was Buffet's "step down" model.

I've finally actually seen one of the E&S horns from around that time and I can clearly see the "Made in Italy" stamp, so that makes things interesting, right there. I've heard people say that an E&S horns that looks like this is definitely a Malerne. I've heard others hedge their bets and say Malerne and something else. I've heard Orsi, too. All of these folks have good arguments. The only bad argument I've heard was that they're Keilwerths. Wrong country 'n' stuff ....

I did a little research and found a mention here. Quoting:

Santoni was a manufacturer of woodwind instruments in Pare/Como, active until the beginning of the 70s, some evidence that he built also for other companies (saxes for buffet/evette, oboes for howarth?). I had a curved soprano sax (seems to be the same model Garbarek uses as well), and an alto sax from Santoni, but both of them were not "pro" instruments, and I used them as reserve instruments when traveling etc.

IMO, I think that this is probably correct: that soprano and the Evette-Schaeffers stamped "Made in Italy" are really from Santoni.

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In writing this thread, I also found another Italian manufacturer: Alfonso Rampone (see this for some info). He isn't the Rampone from Rampone & Cazzani. That's Agostino Rampone (check the company history) -- and they were all in the same town, Quarna, Italy.

More manufacturers to add to the list ....

[LowThudd]

Nice silver Selmer C* Tenor MPC. I'd bid if I could afford too. I've spent to much on eBay allready this week.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/261051870863...#ht_500wt_1413

[kevgermany]

Actually, I'm not sure that there were Evette-branded sopranos in that era. I've only seen alto, tenor and bari. Admittedly, I haven't been looking that hard, as the Evette line -- at the time -- was Buffet's "step down" model.

I've finally actually seen one of the E&S horns from around that time and I can clearly see the "Made in Italy" stamp, so that makes things interesting, right there. I've heard people say that an E&S horns that looks like this is definitely a Malerne. I've heard others hedge their bets and say Malerne and something else. I've heard Orsi, too. All of these folks have good arguments. The only bad argument I've heard was that they're Keilwerths. Wrong country 'n' stuff ....

I did a little research and found a mention here. Quoting:


IMO, I think that this is probably correct: that soprano and the Evette-Schaeffers stamped "Made in Italy" are really from Santoni.

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In writing this thread, I also found another Italian manufacturer: Alfonso Rampone (see this for some info). He isn't the Rampone from Rampone & Cazzani. That's Agostino Rampone (check the company history) -- and they were all in the same town, Quarna, Italy.

More manufacturers to add to the list ....

I think... Speculation based on a web post I read and can't find again - That the Italian article is right as far as it goes. What seems to have happened is that Buffet (Boosey & Hawkes??) ended up owning the A Santoni name and used the brand in some countries instead of Evette. My tenor would be an example. They were also stencilled as Couesnon. There's an example on SOTW, which is identical to my Santoni.

Jan Garbarek appears to have an original A Santoni from when the workshop was still going. Seems that the Santoni saxes were not very good. Alfonso Rampone I know about, courtesy of Milandro who seems to know a lot about these Italian saxes.

[kevgermany]

Actually, I'm not sure that there were Evette-branded sopranos in that era. I've only seen alto, tenor and bari. Admittedly, I haven't been looking that hard, as the Evette line -- at the time -- was Buffet's "step down" model.

I've finally actually seen one of the E&S horns from around that time and I can clearly see the "Made in Italy" stamp, so that makes things interesting, right there. I've heard people say that an E&S horns that looks like this is definitely a Malerne. I've heard others hedge their bets and say Malerne and something else. I've heard Orsi, too. All of these folks have good arguments. The only bad argument I've heard was that they're Keilwerths. Wrong country 'n' stuff ....

I did a little research and found a mention here. Quoting:


IMO, I think that this is probably correct: that soprano and the Evette-Schaeffers stamped "Made in Italy" are really from Santoni.

=============

In writing this thread, I also found another Italian manufacturer: Alfonso Rampone (see this for some info). He isn't the Rampone from Rampone & Cazzani. That's Agostino Rampone (check the company history) -- and they were all in the same town, Quarna, Italy.

More manufacturers to add to the list ....

I think... Speculation based on a web post I read and can't find again - That the Italian article is right as far as it goes. What seems to have happened is that Buffet (Boosey & Hawkes??) ended up owning the A Santoni name and used the brand in some countries instead of Evette. My tenor would be an example. They were also stencilled as Couesnon. There's an example on SOTW, which is identical to my Santoni.

Jan Garbarek appears to have an original A Santoni from when the workshop was still going. Seems that the Santoni saxes were not very good. Alfonso Rampone I know about, courtesy of Milandro who seems to know a lot about these Italian saxes.

[pete]

I actually posted about a "Pare" horn a while back. I think there's another for sale on eBay Italy.

I remember, years ago, taking a trip to this gigantic music store in Rochester, NY. They had a bin of bunch of old horns. I saw maybe a dozen Evette-Schaeffers in the bin .

(Of course, earlier Evette-Schaeffers were pro horns, so it's fairly easy to get confused. Additionally, Evette-Schaeffer Master models are generally pro horns that something didn't work quite right on.)

Some of the reasons why the Malerne connection is/was very hard to shoot down is because these Santoni horns look a LOT like Malernes and Malerne sold Buffets as their "super pro" models. Makes it easy to make the leap to either "Buffet owned Malerne" or "Malerne made horns for Buffet."

All this is something I might look into sometime. There's an awful lot of saxophone ground that lies uncovered!

[LowThudd]

A pair of Wurlitzer C Mels, one in Silver, one brass.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/140783832915...#ht_748wt_1396

http://www.ebay.com/itm/320933406240...#ht_500wt_1413