Results 1 to 12 of 12

Thread: The Pbone

  1. #1
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    Springville, Utah
    Age
    66
    Posts
    1,227
    Thanks
    29
    Thanked 44 Times in 33 Posts

    Default The Pbone

    If you haven't heard about it yet, the Conn/Selmer Company has come out with a trombone completely made of plastic called the "Pbone" that sells for around $160. They come in yellow, red, green, and blue.

    Comparing Pbone to a brass trombone Hint: First time click "skip to playing" and then close your eyes. Listen a second time watching which trombone is being played.

    Pbone quartet-How High the Moon

    The real question seems to not be "does material matter?", but "how much does material matter?" I think this would make a great instrument for trombonists in marching bands and pep bands who don't want to endanger their main instrument in those environments. They come in most school colors to boot!

  2. #2
    Join Date
    Jun 2012
    Location
    SoCal
    Posts
    275
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts

    Default

    Hmm. The thing that I am wondering is, are they BETTER than a metal instrument coming out of china for @$100? It seems to me that the quality would not be any better on this Conn/Selmer plastic trombone, and the Cecilio(etc) with a decent MPC shouldn't sound to bad.

    I don't know anything about brass instruments, but it seems to me that since it is basically "tuned" with the slide and the players mouth that even a sub par trombone could be played in tune. I would definately prefer metal over plastic, even if it were a no-name.

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    Zurich, Switzerland
    Age
    50
    Posts
    1,430
    Thanks
    3
    Thanked 11 Times in 9 Posts

    Default

    When I see an instrument made in other than "traditional" materials, I wonder if those new materials have properties not found in traditional materials, eg trombone slides combined with cold and humidity. Would plastic fare better than metal? If so, cool, then how does it perform musically? And so on.

    I don't necessarily need "the looks" of an instrument. If one in dog poop appearance performs better than one in "traditional black", why not use it?
    Ben

  4. #4
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Location
    Phoenix, AZ USA
    Posts
    8,550
    Thanks
    38
    Thanked 83 Times in 68 Posts

    Default

    I came across these a bit ago. I think that the things they're going for are "light" and "cheap." However, they have the same problem as Grafton and Vibratosax did/does on the saxophone side: a traditional used instrument can be found for just a bit more. And the traditional instrument is a bit more rugged, too.

    Yes, I'm the Artist Formerly Known as Saxpics.

    Check out my photoblog! Latest article: October 6, 2013, "The Eye (Brows) Have It."

  5. #5
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Location
    Kansas City
    Posts
    258
    Thanks
    1
    Thanked 7 Times in 5 Posts

    Default

    I played a St. Pat's Day gig with a trombonist who brought a green one. It didn't sound bad. He thought it was worth the money. But I haven't seen him use it again.

  6. #6
    Join Date
    Mar 2012
    Location
    Philly
    Posts
    119
    Thanks
    6
    Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts

    Default

    ah yes. the "slide vuvuzela". defnintely an improvement on the original.

    First, only a trombonist would upload a video to Youtube sitting next to a 3 foot long stuffed banana.

    Second, as inexpensive student instruments go, I think its a hit. Really, its all down to the embrochure on brass (or so im told by my French Horn playing wife)

    So anything that puts a bone in a kids hand for cheap (or a bone player that's, for ex, doing a gig in a bad hood/mummers parade/crowded pub on pattys day/mardiGras [insert nightmare gig here] etc... & dont wanna bring theyr good horn)
    is a winner.

    A tentative thumbs up from this woodwinder.

  7. #7
    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Location
    Lost somewhere on the 13th floor, in a high rise, on the West Coast of Canada
    Posts
    1,396
    Thanks
    5
    Thanked 28 Times in 25 Posts

    Default

    Purple (and maybe white, I can't remember what the second one is) is the new colour for the year. It's supposed to be out this summer. I tried to get one for my partner's birthday, but it didn't come in in time, the shipment was delayed until July. I opted for red instead.

    I have tried playing around with it off and on for the past couple of weeks. Fun as it is to look at, regular trombones are easier to play IIRC. I did do my necessary 3 month stint on slide trombone in university, and admit I sucked on the instrument. That said, I find the plastic mouthpiece is much harder to produce a consistent sound on, than on a conventional brasswind's mouthpiece. Although I sucked on slide trombone, I was quite good on trumpet, and passable on euphonium. I understand the principles of brasswind embouchure, but putting them into use on the clear plastic, colour coordinated mouthpiece is definitely a challenge.

    I bought the P-bone as a fun past-time gift, not for a serious musician, or even necessarily a serious beginner. I wonder how trombone teachers rate them, and the accompanying mouthpieces.
    One day the bass saxophone will make a comeback and rule the world.
    Bassic Sax (The Website) The Bassic Sax Blog (The Weblog: part of website, but updated daily) Bassic Sax Pix (Lots and lots of pretty sax pics)

  8. #8
    Join Date
    Jun 2012
    Location
    SoCal
    Posts
    275
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts

    Default Purple

    I have been looking at these:

    PURPLE CONCERT BAND TRUMPET

    Woried the valves wouldn't last, though it is gorgeous. I've seen trombones in the same color, at about the same price. Alot less can go wrong on a 'bone compared to a trumpet. Course, with the 5 year warranty they are giving, probably not a bad starter.
    Last edited by LowThudd; 07-09-2012 at 02:21 PM.

  9. #9
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Location
    Phoenix, AZ USA
    Posts
    8,550
    Thanks
    38
    Thanked 83 Times in 68 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by LowThudd View Post
    I have been looking at these:

    PURPLE CONCERT BAND TRUMPET
    That's not plastic, though.

    Colored lacquers have been used by a lot of manufacturers for a very long time. If you go back far enough, you can even find some with enamel: Conn and Buescher had that available for awhile in the 1920s for their saxophones and I see no reason why they wouldn't have had that finish available on their other brasswinds.

    Yes, I'm the Artist Formerly Known as Saxpics.

    Check out my photoblog! Latest article: October 6, 2013, "The Eye (Brows) Have It."

  10. #10
    Join Date
    Jun 2012
    Location
    SoCal
    Posts
    275
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by pete View Post
    That's not plastic, though.
    Yep, that's while I like it better.

    Enamel, now there's a thought. The cheapo imports tend to lose their lacquer fairly rapidly. Enamel should last a bit longer.

  11. #11
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    Springville, Utah
    Age
    66
    Posts
    1,227
    Thanks
    29
    Thanked 44 Times in 33 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by pete View Post
    I came across these a bit ago. I think that the things they're going for are "light" and "cheap." However, they have the same problem as Grafton and Vibratosax did/does on the saxophone side: a traditional used instrument can be found for just a bit more. And the traditional instrument is a bit more rugged, too.
    In the case of a trombone slide a slight bump can put a dent in the thin metal casing and render it inoperable. A plastic slide (or bell) will absorb the hit and retain its shape. Modern automobile bumpers are made with plastic for the same reason.

  12. #12
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Location
    Kansas City
    Posts
    258
    Thanks
    1
    Thanked 7 Times in 5 Posts

    Default

    As I recall our trombonist used a metal mouthpiece on his Pbone.

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Visitors found this page by searching for:

pbone mini review

pbone mini

pbone forum

pbone reviewmini pbonep bone miniwhat clef does the pbone mini usap bone dealers phoenix azreview pbonealto trombone pbone mini reviewsp bone saxophonemin pbone reviewpbone mini new yorktrombone forum pbonepbone alto reviewsp bonep-bone saxophoneshow me how to play a mini p bonesaxophone pboneconn pbone trombone reviewpbone has comealto pbone reviewpbone mini reviewspbone trombone casepbone -filetype:pdf -filetype:ps -filetype:dwf -filetype:kml -filetype:kmz -filetype:xls -filetype:ppt -filetype:doc -filetype:rtf -filetype:swf
SEO Blog

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •