Broken clarinet mouthpiece?

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  1. clarinetdude94

    clarinetdude94

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    So I recently got a Vandoran B45 mouthpiece for my clarinet (I accidentally dropped my old one and broke it) and it sounds pretty airy. At fist I thought it was because it was new, then my reeds, and so on, but I got new reeds and it still sounds super airy. I tested it against another mouthpiece, and that one sounds fine. Is there anyway to fix this problem, or should I try to get a new one? If so, which model and brand should I go for?
     
  2. TrueTone

    TrueTone Clarinet, Sax, Oboe, History

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    How strong are the reeds you're using?
     
  3. Steve

    Steve Clarinet CE/Moderator Staff Member CE/Moderator

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    EDIT: misread the question.

    An "Airy" sound can be due to several issues.
    1- the reed you are using for the mouthpiece is too hard. Mouthpieces can VARY a lot by design. And based on the design is how you select a reed. Such as these differences ==> http://www.clarinetperfection.com/clmpcTypes.htm

    2 - the facing of the reed is longer than your previous one. In which case your embouchure probably is adjusted to it, and there may be gaps between the reed and facing which is outside of your mouth, which can provide an opening for air to escape.

    3 - if a larger tip, you could be pushing much more air into the instrument, which if it is setup with a lower keywork height not for the amount of air, then you can get an airy tone in certain notes.

    4 - The facing on the mouthpiece is off. The table could have issues, the rails could be uneven, etc. There's no easy way to tell other than to have a mouthpiece person check it for inconsistencies.

    But it's probably either 1 or 2
     
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  4. Mojo

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    Try having a few local players try it. Vandoren's are usually very good but occasionally there is one that has a facing issue. Can you swap it for a different B45?
     
  5. jbtsax

    jbtsax Distinguished Member Distinguished Member

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    Do yourself a favor and check out the D'Addario (Rico) Reserve mouthpiece. They are only $99.00, play beautifully, and are amazingly consistent. The X10E tip opening is the "middle of the road" that worked the best for me. Most of the playing problems I encountered playing a B45 for many years were eliminated by switching to this mouthpiece.

    [video=youtube;PjPp-KMQpEc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjPp-KMQpEc[/video]
     
  6. pete

    pete Brassica Oleracea Staff Member Administrator

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    I like this idea better than just going out and buying something else. I've also used the B45 and it's pretty decent. It's definitely possible there's something wrong with it -- a bad one in a bunch of hundreds, say -- but I would also take a look at the the stuff Steve mentions, especially about the reeds. It's easy and relatively inexpensive to pick up a reed that's about a 1/2 strength less than what you're used to or use some sandpaper, reed rush, or reed knife to thin out one you have.

    Of course, if you're using a beat up POS ligature, there's your problem. I've seen lots of folks attempt to play with ligatures that are literally falling apart. Spend the $5 and get one that has screws intact and can actually fit the mouthpiece.
     
  7. Mojo

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    I can repair your broken mouthpiece if you miss it.
     
  8. Steve

    Steve Clarinet CE/Moderator Staff Member CE/Moderator

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    Gandalfe Administrator Staff Member Administrator

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    I keep meaning to show this piece to you that no one can play! I came free from a maker in Brazil and his other two pieces were marvelous. Thing you could fix it, or should I toss it? For starters, the rails are uneven. Does that matter?

    View attachment 2691
     
  10. Steve

    Steve Clarinet CE/Moderator Staff Member CE/Moderator

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    Neat.
    I've been contemplating making wooden mpcs just for fun.
    I'm still working out the beak to throat milling process though.

    I'm sure Mojo could fix it.
    If you plan on throwing it out, I'll take it.
     
  11. Gandalfe

    Gandalfe Administrator Staff Member Administrator

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  12. Steve

    Steve Clarinet CE/Moderator Staff Member CE/Moderator

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    plubber ?
     
  13. Mojo

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    Sorry, I can not see the attachment.
     
  14. Gandalfe

    Gandalfe Administrator Staff Member Administrator

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    'tain't just plastic nor rubber. ;)
     
  15. Gandalfe

    Gandalfe Administrator Staff Member Administrator

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    I tagged you on Facebook MOJO. No worries.
     
  16. Steve

    Steve Clarinet CE/Moderator Staff Member CE/Moderator

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    Does it bounce, squeak and float like this stuff ?? ==> http://www.jakks.com/plubber.html
     
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    Gandalfe Administrator Staff Member Administrator

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  18. pete

    pete Brassica Oleracea Staff Member Administrator

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    But that would be kewl.
     

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