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hot topics policy

Discussion in 'Forum Rules' started by Carl H., Jan 24, 2009.

  1. Carl H.

    Carl H. Distinguished Member Distinguished Member

    No joke. In 1989 I was touring Canada and the first place we stopped (for liquid refreshments) the first words out of the first genuine Canadian were "What can I get for you guys eh?"

    (I have witnesses)
  2. pete

    pete Brassica Oleracea Staff Member Administrator

    No, a true Canadian would say, "What kinda donuts can we get you, eh?"


    (Tim Horton's, of course.)
  3. kcp

    kcp Friends of the WF Distinguished Member

    You people got it all wrong, I don't speak like dat and I don't eat donuts... non mais voyons... sheesh! :rolleyes:
  4. pete

    pete Brassica Oleracea Staff Member Administrator

    I thought you Quebecois wanted to be your own country 'n' stuff....

  5. kcp

    kcp Friends of the WF Distinguished Member

    now, now, let's not get into politics there, eh!! ;) Besides, like it was said earlier, it'll bore you to death.... zzzzzzzzzz
  6. Merlin

    Merlin Content Expert/Moderator Staff Member CE/Moderator

    I think the whole separatist thing freaks out people in the US. They had a civil war already, so they probably figure we're due for one. We know that's not the way things work here.
  7. Free Quebec. And if that's not convenient, how about free beer?
  8. tictactux

    tictactux Distinguished Member Distinguished Member

    Pffft. Bilingual countries...amateurs... :emoji_rage:

    No, I won't go into politics. But people had better settled such affairs peacefully. One could spend money and labour better elsewhere than on challenged pride.
  9. Merlin

    Merlin Content Expert/Moderator Staff Member CE/Moderator

    Funny thing is, the only time I was in Switzerland, I couldn't find anyone who would speak Italian. However, in Austria, I got free drinks that way!
  10. tictactux

    tictactux Distinguished Member Distinguished Member

    Next time you're in Zurich, honk. I'll offer you a beer. Promised.

    Heck, I offer a beer (or wine, even pop soda, anything as long as it isn't Carlsberg) to any WWF regular showing up here. Bring an instrument if you're here on a Thursday.

    <still wondering why the Austrians would offer free drinks to a Canadian pretending to speak Italian>
  11. Merlin

    Merlin Content Expert/Moderator Staff Member CE/Moderator

    It was an Italian resto in Schladming. The guy even offered me an Italian newspaper to read.
  12. tictactux

    tictactux Distinguished Member Distinguished Member

    At which point you gave up and simply ordered another Grappa.
  13. Heckelphone

    Heckelphone Double Reed CE Staff Member CE/Moderator

    Zurich or bust!

    Small world! I'll be heading over to Switzerland in March (business trip -- one of the perks of working for a Swiss company). Conference site on lake Zug. :-D

  14. Eureka

    I think I have just stumbled into the WF equivalent of the "Lounge"; it's in the "Forum Rules" section and is called "hot topics policy." :emoji_relaxed:

    No, I wasn't looking for a Lounge. But a comment about that from a new member here--I often enjoyed the Lounge on SOTW, but assiduously avoided the Hot Topics. Ultimately, however, it seemed that the threads in the Lounge eventually devolved into "poo" humor (thanks to a member here for that description) punctuated by sexual innuendo and it became way too tedious to wade through that to get to what was at other times excellent information and advice, and great wit and humor. Truly a moderator's nightmare!

    I look forward to reading here and learning.
  15. I didn't like "The Lounge" at SOTW. I tried to stay away from it. Ironically, my posting there actually made me realize that it was time to leave. I don't think that there is anything inherently wrong with off-topic discussion or hot topics. They just take up excess moderator time and therefore are undesirable. The problem with SOTW is IMO not the "strict" rules, but the fact that the moderators either are not able to enforce them due to the size and nature of the membership, which is not their fault, or do so at random, which IS their fault. It is a fair that the founders/owners of a site make decisions at their discretion. However, if you encourage and take donations from members, it is also fair that the members can expect that stated rules are adhered to, be it strictly or laid-back, in the same manner for all members. Also, that you do not reward behavior repeatedly aimed at breaking the rules.
    Last edited: Feb 9, 2009
  16. key to all of that is to have the members obey the rules, then the moderators don't have to do much of anything. The SOTW lounge is always interesting though, never a dull moment in there.
  17. SOTSDO

    SOTSDO Old King Log Staff Member CE/Moderator

    However, there are any number of other venues on the Internets in which to get snarky, obscene, or whatever. Those who frequent the musical sites (like those who frequent any "specialist" website) often get offended when the off-putting behavior encouraged in the "off topic" areas spills over into the rest of the operation.

    The anonymity of the Internet does tend to bring out the worst in some. Me - well, I may be an asshole in real life (the jury is still out on that), but I try to limit my positions on these websites in the same way that I would (for example) conduct myself with relative strangers that I might be associated with at (for example) a wake at a funeral home.

    Some can't do this, using the shield to their personalities that the Internet affords to go hog wild. Their prerogative, of course, but it doesn't tend to endear them to others.
  18. I'm just as glad to not have a Lounge area here. Vague rules about hot topics are okay by me too. You have made a statement that off-topic comments may be tolerated. That's actually pretty clear.

    My favorite online rules are "Thou shalt not be excessively annoying.", and "Don't be too easily annoyed". Those were from FidoNET. I used to be a sysop before I found the Internet.

    The SOTW Hot Topics area annoyed me for a while, then I got to enjoy it, then they closed it. There's a lesson there.

    A sense of humor and a little tolerance go a long way.
  19. pete

    pete Brassica Oleracea Staff Member Administrator

    I think you, Steen, and AltoRuth have kind-of gotten our point on the lack of hard-n-fast rules on this forum: they're less restrictive for EVERYONE, but especially for the mods/admin staff. Havening rules that cover every eventuality make for a forum that's not fun to play in -- or administrate. I no longer have to hem and haw over, "Well, this post is probably offensive to 60% of our membership, but it is [woodwind] related ...." I can just say, "This isn't appropriate. I'll have a chat with this user and lock his account until I sort it out."

    Hey, I've pointed out the [​IMG] thingy. Y'all can report posts :).
  20. Man, if anyone ever posted something that is right on the money, it has got to be this, except that the SOTW numbers would have to be double in my case.
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