Identify this clarinet - Buffet half-Boehm Albert clarinet

Discussion in 'The Buffet Family' started by Steve, Sep 4, 2010.

  1. Steve

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    Eh? What?

    I can identify the clarinet: it's a 1895-ish Buffet. What do I win?
     
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    And now I know where the British "Edgeware" clarinets got the idea for their side Bb/Eb key.
     
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    you win one year free membership to the Woodwind Forum ......
     
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    And second prize is a two year membership!
     
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    Steve Clarinet CE/Moderator Staff Member CE/Moderator

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    yeah but don't most Albert's have a long Bb/Eb side trill key ?
     
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    Steve Clarinet CE/Moderator Staff Member CE/Moderator

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    Some more interesting information

    Lower Joint
    The bell keys, the Boehm styled pinky keys function just like a boehm.

    But the "ring" keys are pure Albert.
    and the sliver key is opposite other Buffet Alberts. Normally opens on the left side of the instrument versus the modern right side such as this model.

    Upper Joint
    The "ring" keys are pure Albert, but as one can see lack any Rings.

    The 4 trill keys look Boehm, but function with Albert fingerings.

    The throat keys function like Boehm in that the A lifts the Ab/G# key.


    Does anyone know when Buffet started ringing the upper joint ?


    there's more pictures in the 1895 section here
    http://www.ClarinetPerfection.com/clsnBuffet.htm#Identification

    extra 20 points if one can figure out the music used as a backdrop for the pictures.
     
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    In working with an Albert clarinet expert, Oscar Font
    his webpage here http://usuarios.multimania.es/albertsystem/
    and http://oscarfont.blogspot.com/

    he has identified this model as the "Half-Boehm" clarinet.

    Oscar further went on to say
    The fingering is Albert but the clarinet has the alternate keys for the little fingers like on a Boehm. The German jazz clarinetist Peter Strohkorb who emigrated to Australia some decades ago played this type of Albert clarinet; he could only play an Albert with the Boehm key arrangement for the little fingers as on a Half-Boehm clarinet one need for fingering an E or B1 only one little finger not both little fingers as on a regular Albert clarinet.


    Oscar's website has great information for Albert clarinets
    The source of Oscar's information was Mr. Eberhard Kraut, which he asked me to provide.
     
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    I'm pretty sure that I know, but I want to hear what other people think ....
     
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    It's a very famous solo clarinet part by a very famous composer and you can't buy it either ..... If you saw the first line it would have been a dead giveaway .....

    but ... here's another clue. I did a write up on this very piece in my Music History/Composer Class back in '85 .. :p

    it also has extensive piano ad-lib solos
     
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    OK I finally looked.
    Really? You guys don't know this piece?

    Really???
     
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    Doesn't require much knowledge except from reading and clicking skills. :)
     
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    Steve Clarinet CE/Moderator Staff Member CE/Moderator

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    It's ... :tongue:
     
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    hahahaha ...... i didn't look at all the pics I guess ....
     

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