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What Kind of Clarinet Should I Get?

Discussion in 'Clarinets' started by pete, Nov 30, 2009.

  1. tictactux

    tictactux Distinguished Member Distinguished Member

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    FWIW I got some rough sketches for clip-on plateau key extensions for virtually any make of clarinets. They would be made of some kind of plastic and could be installed in a couple of minutes, even on rental instruments, as they leave no traces when removed (even on Terry's vast Alto collection). However I don't really see a mass-market opportunity to justify the prototype production cost.
     
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    3D printing may make that remote possibility a reality...
     
  3. tictactux

    tictactux Distinguished Member Distinguished Member

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    Yes...however, what most people don't immediately realise is that you need a good electronic representation of the to-be-printed item first...which is rather time-consuming to render...
    I think I start with a good old-fashioned hand-sawed ABS or wood model. Tomorrow, or maybe next year...
     
  4. pete

    pete Brassica Oleracea Staff Member Administrator

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    We could do a Kickstarter.
     
  5. Gloria

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    Know less than little about a clarinet!

    "Additionally, you want a Bb clarinet. There are approximately a dozen other members of the clarinet family."

    I have just bought a second clarinet, while knowing very, very little about them, for my granddaughter. Bought her an Étude last year, but her sister broke it, bought her a replacement Étude yesterday. An after the fact question hit my mind: are the beginner clarinets all Bb? Also, looking at a Yamaha Advantage -200AD. Is it any step up for her, for next year? She will be trying out for marching band in 3 weeks, and seems to be sticking with the clarinet. But, it is hard to put ...$300.00 or more into an instrument for her, as she has 2 small siblings that could get into it and damage it beyond any value of restoration.

    Really appreciated your breakdown and descriptions of the different numbers associated with different models!! Thanks, Gloria
     
  6. pete

    pete Brassica Oleracea Staff Member Administrator

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    Making a long thread longer, Quinn the Eskimo, our forum sponsor, is currently selling new Buffet B18s for all of $299 US. You really can't find a cheaper price on a halfway decent new student horn for less than that. That's even cheaper than renting, in some markets. Get a good mouthpiece and you're all set.

    Summarizing from the original thread that this was posted in, you can easily find a better used clarinet under $299, but I couldn't guarantee you that you wouldn't need $150 in repair. I'll also say that if you want to spend that $150 or so more, there are some much better used horns out there.
     
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    How about Boosey and Hawkes?
     
  8. pete

    pete Brassica Oleracea Staff Member Administrator

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    I'm pretty sure that B&H hasn't produced clarinets in quite awhile.

    B&H did make their own clarinets for a bit, but they probably stenciled -- i.e. bought them from another manufacturer and just stenciled their name on them -- an awful lot more horns. This would, then, quickly get us to the place where I'd (and/or others) would have to look at each individual horn to give you an idea of the horn's quality.

    Again, if you want to take a chance on a really cheap eBay horn, it's quite possible to find one for under $299 -- but you might need repairs that would exceed that overall $299 price. Possibly by a lot.

    FWIW, many years ago, someone gave me a Pan American metal clarinet. I think it cost $5. It could have used new pads, etc., but it worked as-is and had a surprisingly decent tone when combined with a halfway decent mouthpiece. Smelled pretty old. However, I'm not going to recommend someone go online and find a 80 year old horn and say it's gonna play fine right out of the box.
     
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    A friend of mine on facebook told me she got her cl. from Aldi for £50, brand new, I didn't ask her the brand but she said its chinese and I wouldn't think it could be much good!
     
  10. pete

    pete Brassica Oleracea Staff Member Administrator

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    Aldi. That's a kind of supermarket + department store, kinda like a Super Target, if I remember properly. (I'm in Phoenix, Arizona, USA. One of my grandmothers was from Yorkshire -- and I watch Doctor Who and TopGear.)

    Amazon and Rakuten do sell some higher-end instruments, but they also sell a lot of bargain-basement instruments that aren't necessarily that good. The price you mention is rather a too low price for any kind of decent instrument.

    Chinese and Taiwanese (especially) instruments are gaining in quality. However, it's still a lot of "you get what you pay for."
     
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    That's true of their saxophones but not their clarinets. B&H made their own clarinets up till about 1980 when they stopped production and bought Buffet Crampon. There are a few stencilled B&H clarinets from their later days (models 400 (amati) and 78 (selmer bundy)) but the vast majority were made in England at their Edgware factory.

    The British made models go

    Regent (beginner instrument)
    Edgware (step up)
    Emperor (bigger step up)
    Imperial 926 - Professional instrument medium bore.
    Symphony 1010 - Professional instrument Large bore.

    They had different names for the ones sold in North America but the above are what you'll normally find in the UK.

    They are all quite old now so you need to know what you are doing if you buy one. They were all excellent instruments in their class in their day.
     
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    I've noticed a lot of B&H clarinets on sites and they have made for Boosey & Hawkes on the bell. Yet the seller lists them as _by_ B&H. Stencils.
     
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    pete Brassica Oleracea Staff Member Administrator

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    Looks like Quinn's still selling them. That's a pretty darn decent price. Combine that with a Vandoren Masters mouthpiece for $35 from here, you're all set.
     
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    pete Brassica Oleracea Staff Member Administrator

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    IIRC, Quinn sold like 550 of these.

    He's now selling Buffet S66 horns, which are B12s with a different name. These only have the stock mouthpiece, though. Hey, Jim and/or Matt, if you're reading this, can you get an upgraded mouthpiece?
     
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    I'm sure that can be arranged. I just sold two of the S66s to friends of mine who were sax players suffering with nasty clarinets to double on. I also bought another of my granddaughters a S66 and she is delighted with it too. Nice new instrument for $300.
     

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