What's Wrong With This Picture?

jbtsax

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This was a full page ad for a state university music department in the printed program of one of the state's largest high school jazz festivals. This is what happens when the art and graphics department is given an assignment without any oversight or supervision.


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What's really funny is that the music department signed off on it without seeing it. Talk about a breakdown in communication. :rolleyes:
 
Do you mean how many things are wrong with this picture? I see potentially three; no neck strap or strap hanging down the horn, hand above the keys, and is the mouthpiece upside down too! At the very least they have the left hand near the correct keys.
 
and it's an image from istockphoto.com ROFL ... I've seen it before.
 
Very often, a school's individual departments have little say in the advertising that a school does. All of the decisions (concept, production and final approval) are in the hands of a "promotion" department (which may be part of admissions or some other function of the school's administration).

Looking at it from a more empirical basis, I have seen many "publicity" photos of saxophone players where the neck strap has been omitted completely. I get the feeling that the diagonal of the neck strap in some way interferes with the overall layout of the photos; i.e., you've already got the vertical of the horn body and the horizontal of the frame/formatting (and, with a tenor, the horizontal of the neck); throwing a neck strap throws a third element in that's at odds with the rest.

As for the rest, the bozos hired for this stuff are hired for their looks, not for their musical talent. Most of the musicians of my acquaintance would not measure up to the "appearance standards" that advertising folks use when casting these things. Hands on the horn wrong and reversed mouthpiece positions can be accounted for by not having a musician around when things were formatted - all of the boys and girls in music department were too busy practicing to offer any advice.

(Or, it could be that the player in the photo is one of those who affects the reed up positioning popular with the occasional clarinet playing oddball, and his habits have carried over to his saxophone playing. Ya never know...)

Advertising people are all about 39° out of phase with the rest of the world. You've just got to learn to not let it get to you...
 
Advertising people are all about 39° out of phase with the rest of the world.

Mmm... Careful there my good old alto clarinet-loving friend. Who are you calling out of phase with the rest of the world? :emoji_relaxed: My undergrad is in advertising. :wink:
 
Actually, advertising people make a living latching on to the tastes of the world.

Musicians. Now there's a really weird bunch. Works for me.
 
What also bugs me is when people decorate or advertise something musical, they often use "backwards notes" with the stem on the wrong side.

You would think the trained eye of an artist could figure that out.

But as we can see, many people doing the job are not really artists with trained eyes. Perhaps that is why they are making a living doing something other than fine art ;-)

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The "out of phase" stuff is meant in the electrical sense - while they (and you) are often more sensitive to trends and the like, they (and you) tend to look at and perceive different elements of a problem/reality than do we normal mortals. It's how they are sensitive enough to find that one item that will pull the strings of someone's heart and cause them to do something that the client desires.

Take our "saxophone playing" guy in the photo. To us, it's pretty obvious that he had never seen a saxophone prior to the taking of the photo in question. There's the neckstrap, the finger placement, the mouthpiece inversion, and the general posture thing. and boy, are we dead right about everything that we've said.

The ad person doesn't see any of this. What they see is a dynamically posed "cool" guy (the haircut, the shades, the shirt - he oozes cool, and a "interesting" camera angle, and the superimposed "message", and all of the elements that would make a prospective music student want to attend Whatsamatta U. And, if those elements are not present in the first place, they know what needs to be done to make it that way.

Musically, we are right as rain, and can wax on and on about how dumb it all is. But, from a marketing angle, the photo does most everything right. And, since they are trying to get prospective students into a music program, not impress hoary musicians, they are doing it right.

However, being so attuned to what pulls at people's heartstrings means that they (you) can't really look at things like the rest of us, the uninitiated. They always get to see too much of the inner workings of "the human condition", for want of a better term. So, we move through life seeing "normal" things, while they always get to see the gears and levers that make it all work.

Of course, the same thing applies to every specialist swimming in a sea of generalists. For example, while others hear entertainment when a musical group performs, we tend to understand the nuts and bolts that are all assembled to make the finished product work as a whole. Ditto a butcher viewing a family meal with a roast laid out on the table. Ditto a mechanic looking at your pride and joy of a vintage MG GT and hearing that the timing is just a tad off.

But, the big difference is how comprehensive the impact of those "in the trade" (advertising) is on life as a whole. Thus, while the butcher eats meat perhaps three times a day, perceptions of "things" are with us 24/7 (or, as I heard on a television show this week, "31" (twenty four plus seven - get it?)). I don't see how Don Draper has enough undistracted time to do all of the stuff on Mad Men, being bombarded by all of this so much of the time.

And, remember, being out of phase isn't bad if you happen to be right...
 
One of the neatest bits of marketing I ever saw...

...was on the checks of a guy I used to subcontract for back in the 1960's. (He put together a group of musicians that toured around all of the Saint Louis area Catholic schools (none of which had a music program) to play the pit for their annual musicals. For a few rehearsals and three or four performances, we would get something in the neighborhood of $50.00 or so.)

This was back in the very early days of check art, little bits of artwork that you could have printed on your checks. In his case, he had the standard "music artwork", it being a treble clef on a staff with a couple of sharps and a spread of notes that just happened to reflect a D major chord.

In addition to the artwork, the contractor also had his name and address printed on the checks, pretty impressive for the time and place. He didn't opt to put his full name on the checks, using instead his first initial and last name.

He was generally known to his friends by his first name, Doug. But, on his checks, he was forever "D. Major"...
 
Musically, we are right as rain, and can wax on and on about how dumb it all is. But, from a marketing angle, the photo does most everything right. And, since they are trying to get prospective students into a music program, not impress hoary musicians, they are doing it right.
Terry, I've got to disagree with you. I spent 42 years in advertising, admittedly most of that time in media management, not creative. Important rules are not to embarrass the client, know your target, and to give the prospect confidence in the effectiveness of the product being marketed.

This ad is directed at students entering college. It's likely they have spent the past few years in music, and probably have an idea of how a saxophone is held. To the general public this ad might pass. To music students it communicates a negative message.
 
i was going to ask .. i wonder how many sax majors they had attracted ???

Unfortunately all of the very best high school and junior high jazz ensembles in the state were at that festival and that ad was a subject of much ridicule and extremely embarrassing to the one adjudicator from that school.

It really did have a negative advertising effect.
 
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