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eBay's got quite a few rare US-made horns this week

pete

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Conn F Mezzo and Conn-O-Sax (silver plate) (Welch Music. Ended with no bids. Listed for $100,000. Not relisted.)
Conn F Mezzo (lacquer) (Ended because of error in listing. Not relisted.)
Buescher Straight Alto (silver plate) (Still for sale; original ad was for $11,900. Now $10,995. Now $8,995. Closed as "no longer available.")
Buescher Straight Alto (bare brass) (No bids. Originally listed for $8,000. Eventually resisted with no reserve. Sold for $3750.)

It's also amusing that I can say that the least rare horn in the group is the F Mezzo.
 
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TrueTone

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Well if the listing for the silver plate Buescher is right I've seen a bit less than a third of all Conn-O-Saxes.
Not sure when Mr. Cohen estimated that, though the fact I search for them skews those results a bit.
Lets see how many years it will take those to sell at those prices. ;)
 

pete

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I'd call the silver Buescher straight alto in the ballpark, at least. The one in bare brass ended with 0 bids, which is kinda what I thought would happen: it was priced fairly high ($8K) for a horn without the original neck.

F Mezzos have been selling at $4K to $6K (I've got a LOT of these horns in my gallery, now). The most I've seen someone TRY to sell a Conn-O-Sax for was $100K. PMWoodwind.com had a relacquer Conn-O-Sax that had some work done on it for $42K for awhile and eventually listed it on eBay for less (I'm thinking $30K, but I could be wrong). It did eventually sell, tho.

Chances aren't very good that you'll see another Conn-O-Sax anytime soon and because there are so few of them, it's essentially, "Add a price and shoot for the moon!" However, the most expensive sax sold in the last couple months, based on looking at closed eBay ads still in their cache, is $11,850 (Mark VI tenor, natch). (Yes, there were a couple that were allegedly more expensive, but they were, "Best offer accepted" and a horn identified as gold plate that looked suspiciously like lacquer to me, and it resold at $11.25K.)
 

Groovekiller

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I have recently sold or traded some horns like these. I think I got fair prices, even though I dealt with dealers who will make a profit on my stuff. Prices on the straight altos would be almost OK if the horns were in original condition and ready to play, overhauled by a top technician. I don't think they are. A friend of mine just paid 40K for a Conn-O-Sax that plays great. I think it's a re-lacquered finish. Forgive me if I'm wrong. My best guess is 60K for a great original Conn-O-Sax and $7500 for a killer F mezzo. If I'm too low, that's OK because I have these horns in my posession, and when it comes time to sell, I'd like to get as much as possible without being a crook.
 

saxhound

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PMWoodwind.com had a relacquer Conn-O-Sax that had some work done on it for $42K for awhile and eventually listed it on eBay for less (I'm thinking $30K, but I could be wrong). It did eventually sell, tho.
I was sitting with Paul Maslin when he took the call from the guy who wanted to sell that sax. IIRC, he said ask for $40k, but settle for mid to low 30's, unless the horn was in mint condition. That one looks nice, but I wouldn't call it mint. Although if Paul worked on it, that would add a lot of value in my book.
 
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pete

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I don't think there's anything wrong with trying to get as much as possible. All I point out is what the averages are. And make fun of ads selling a Bundy II for $1.25 trillion, of course. :D
 

pete

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pete

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Nice sounding little horns. I'm still hoping to see a non-Conn vintage F alto for sale, someday.
 

pete

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So, more fun stuff again. A couple of the horns listed above have been re-listed.

Beautiful Buescher straight alto, photographed with a tipped bell soprano, just because he can (Dr. Rick). I wonder if this horn was from his set of a bunch of horns he was trying to sell for $100K+ a couple years back. $14,975. Looks like it needs new pads. Ad now says "no longer available."
Quinn's got another 16V contrabass Sarrusophone. I know Conn made only a few hundred of these. Having two for sale in a month? He doesn't play the lottery, does he? $10,400. (Relisted for $8K and ad closed as "no longer available.")

EDIT: Then I get to the third page of results, and there's another 16V. $7800. (Relisted at $5900 and sold.)
 
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pete

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Yes, but it's neither the clarinet nor the Selmer are US-made and a clarinet isn't a saxophone. So there :p.

(I wouldn't mind learning more about the Grafton clarinet and I'll watch the video.)
 

pete

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OK. That video hurt. Even beyond the fact that it would only play in Microsoft Edge. Let's move that conversation to another thread.

EDIT: Done.
 
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