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Wood Vito - fake ?

Discussion in 'Selmer USA' started by Steve, Feb 9, 2011.

  1. Ebay Listing Photo

    It's only of the bell but I'd never seen this logo before. Until your pictures came to me. Here is the picture from the ebay list I first saw.Note the wooden bell.

    I attached the picture, because I haven't figured out how to insert it into the post.[​IMG]
     
  2. tictactux

    tictactux Distinguished Member Distinguished Member

    Looks halfway legit to me. According to
    this catalogue (last page), the 7810 is the "Vito France" while the 7820 is the "VSP France". What's interesting is that "yours" shows a wooden bell which is stamped "Vito" while it should be "VSP". <scratches head>
     
  3. Eureka

    That is the counterfeit one with VITO on the wooden bell, you just proved it.

    I have two Vito VSPs purchased through e bay that have the wooden bell with the VSP/France on them both. And now I know they are legit.

    Do you know the production dates for the VSP?
     
  4. tictactux

    tictactux Distinguished Member Distinguished Member

    ...or it is a pre-series model. One never knows how many pre-production samples are leaked into the public.
    According to my sources, they were produced from the mid '90s through 2003.
     
  5. catalogue

    Thanks for the Leblanc catalogue, that is superb. And the dates too.

    Here is a picture from an ebay listing for another VSP but supposedly all plastic made by Vito, USA.

    [​IMG]

    I'm curious about it.

    And you're right, it could be a cross or pre- production.

    Thank for all the help, it is wonderful to receive all this effort.
     
  6. Leblanc Archives

    Dear Bernie,

    Thank you for your inquiry regarding Leblanc's VSP and V40 clarinets. I have
    some information for you. I would appreciate you sharing information you have
    found with me, too.

    There is quite a bit of information about the VSP. Perhaps you know most of
    this:
    1. April 29, 1974 price list
    a. First listing
    b. Described as "first professional non-wood clarinet"
    c. Model number 7177

    2. May 1, 1983 price list
    a. Model number is now 7277

    3. April 1, 1984 price list
    a. Model 7277 VSP is now the "Pete Fountain" model

    4. Feb. 1, 1985 price list
    a. Model 7277 is now just plain VSP
    b. New "Pete Fountain" line introduced

    5. Jan. 10, 1991 price list
    a. No 7277 VSP (from plastic) listed
    b. First listing of VSP grenadilla in two models:
    7820 all grenadilla
    7810 grenadilla body and resotone barrel and bell
    c. Bore = 14.65 mm

    6. Dec. 15, 1997 price list
    a. Both 7820 and 7810 VSP models now have bore = 14.60 mm

    7. Jan. 1, 1999
    a. Last listing for 7810

    8. March 15, 2002 price list
    a. Last listing for VSP France model 7820


    The V40 is mysterious, and I, too, have not found out much about it. Perhaps
    you already know of this:
    1. March 1, 1982 price list
    a. First listing of V40 (but I have not been able to find price lists from
    1981)
    b. Non-wood
    c. Bore = 14.85 mm

    2. Still listed in 1997

    That's all I have right now for the V40. It may be possible that I can find
    some more material.

    I hope this helps you. Again, I would appreciate you sharing with me additional
    information you may have.

    Thanks,
    Debbie






    Dr. Deborah Check Reeves
    Curator of Education
    Associate Professor of Music
    National Music Museum
    The University of South Dakota
    Vermillion, SD 57069
    (605) 677-5306
    orgs.usd.edu/nmm
     
  7. V40 Catalogue Pictures

    -- Bad Link --

    If this doesn't open leave a PM and I'll email the file to you. thanks

    -----------

    Message from Pete: the link you've got here is to an attachment in your e-mail, so you're the only one that can open it. I'd recommend saving the PDF to your local computer then post it here: click the button that's called "Manage Attachments" in the Advanced Interface. If you're not using the Advanced Interface, click here and scroll down to "Message Editor Interface."

    I deleted your link because you left your user ID in it. If I was an enterprising hacker, I could possibly break into your e-mail account.
     
    Last edited by a moderator: Mar 2, 2011
  8. National Music Museum on the VSP

    Dear Bernie,

    Thank you for your inquiry regarding Leblanc's VSP and V40 clarinets. I have
    some information for you. I would appreciate you sharing information you have
    found with me, too.

    There is quite a bit of information about the VSP. Perhaps you know most of
    this:
    1. April 29, 1974 price list
    a. First listing
    b. Described as "first professional non-wood clarinet"
    c. Model number 7177

    2. May 1, 1983 price list
    a. Model number is now 7277

    3. April 1, 1984 price list
    a. Model 7277 VSP is now the "Pete Fountain" model

    4. Feb. 1, 1985 price list
    a. Model 7277 is now just plain VSP
    b. New "Pete Fountain" line introduced

    5. Jan. 10, 1991 price list
    a. No 7277 VSP (from plastic) listed
    b. First listing of VSP grenadilla in two models:
    7820 all grenadilla
    7810 grenadilla body and resotone barrel and bell
    c. Bore = 14.65 mm

    6. Dec. 15, 1997 price list
    a. Both 7820 and 7810 VSP models now have bore = 14.60 mm

    7. Jan. 1, 1999
    a. Last listing for 7810

    8. March 15, 2002 price list
    a. Last listing for VSP France model 7820


    The V40 is mysterious, and I, too, have not found out much about it. Perhaps
    you already know of this:
    1. March 1, 1982 price list
    a. First listing of V40 (but I have not been able to find price lists from
    1981)
    b. Non-wood
    c. Bore = 14.85 mm

    2. Still listed in 1997

    That's all I have right now for the V40. It may be possible that I can find
    some more material.

    I hope this helps you. Again, I would appreciate you sharing with me additional
    information you may have.

    Thanks,
    Debbie






    Dr. Deborah Check Reeves
    Curator of Education
    Associate Professor of Music
    National Music Museum
    The University of South Dakota
    Vermillion, SD 57069
    (605) 677-5306
    orgs.usd.edu/nmm
     
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