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I'm originally from central Indiana and grew up within a marching band bus ride of the Elkhart factories -- Gemeinhardt will always have a special place in my heart and I get mine out, dutifully, ever few months to make sure the fingers still remember their jobs. For you BoA people, I went to Carmel High School, you know you hated us :)

Oh I remember those nights in the Hoosier Dome. I think it was Ben Davis that we hated more... j/k. I was a North Side Marching Redskin in those days, and somehow we managed to place 8th all four years I marched.

My intro, I began playing music seemingly eons ago. Mom bought a piano when my brothers and I were little, and we'd bang away on the keyboard. She taught me a little bit, like "middle C" and some of the other notes. Sometime in grade school we had a music class, where we learned the basics of musical notation, note names, and learned to play recorders. After that, in fifth grade I think, we had actual band. My uncle had been playing saxophone for longer than I'd been alive, so I decided to play it also. He went around to a few stores, tried out a few horns, and picked one out that played well. (Vito made in Japan, circa 1986) IIRC it was ~$800 and we paid $20/month. I played that sax for eight years of concert bands and four years of marching band. After high school I put it away and just occasionally pulled it out to blow a few notes. I took it out the other day and was surprised to see all the scratches and wear that I didn't notice before.

A few years after school I decided I wanted to learn guitar. I bought a pawn shop electric, and while I was serious enough to take lessons, I wasn't serious enough to practice. My fingers just don't want to listen to my brain it seems. Over the years I've bought more guitars and inherited one from my dad, an old Gibson archtop. It is a fine guitar, and the only history I know of it is that my uncle bought it from a pawn shop, took a few lessons, and later traded it to my dad for a car(If I remember right)

My mom bought a used flute from the neighbor, which I played with for awhile. Who knows, there may be a day when I ask her for it and try to add it to the list of instruments I can play poorly.

My dad was a buyer and seller of things. A "flipper", if you will. I recall at one time he told me he had a trumpet, or a trombone. I never saw it, but I did see and I think I played the tenor sax he had at one time. I wish he hadn't sold it. When he died, we found two clarinets in his stuff. One is a Bundy, student model I presume, the other is a wooden Pan American. The Pan Am needs new pads, and I took the Bundy to a shop and asked them to make it playable, but when I got it back I think all they did was replace a few pads. I can play from the low E to the second A , so about two and a half octaves. It will be going to another shop. The Pan Am I have researched, and while I thought wooden clarinets were better than their plastic counterparts, this one isn't. (BTW, I've been trying to figure out its age, but the only thing I found puts it to being 80+ years old, and I don't think thats right.

So, having this almost working clarinet and beginner clarinet book, I've been learning and practicing. It's also got me thinking about my old sax that's parked away for now. I'm probably going to get some new music and practice some, try to get back into it. I'm here for... well to read mostly, maybe ask a few questions, and give a little input from my experience.

TL;DR Played alto sax for 8 years of concert band and 4 years of marching band, got into guitar, a little flute, now clarinet and sax again.
Hello all !
This is Chris , and I am playing Alto, Tenor and Baritone sax, in 2 amateur bands playing blues, reggae and rock.
My baritone is an antique Evette & Schaeffer, with a huge sound, but very old ergonomics ( 2 octave keys, manual G# , no rollers at all )... It's almost identical to an original Adolphe Sax horn. I am hunting for a vintage Conn or Buescher or equivalent.
I enjoy this forum which is a great way of finding information on our beloved horns, many thanks !


Content Expert Saxophones
Staff member
Hi there Chris. Welcome to the WF. I'm glad to have another sax player here, I was feeling a little out-numbered by all these clarinetists et al. ;)

Seriously though, it's great to have you here.

As to your bari, it sounds like it's a cousin to one of mine. I have a nearly minty, Evette & Schaeffer bari circa 1886, but mine is HP--which would explain that minty condition. ;) I bought it from an elderly gentleman who owned it for over 60 years. The drummer in a dance band he played in when he was in his 20s, bought it one day thinking it would a nice way to change up the sound of the ensemble. Sadly, they could never figure out why it never sounded right.

Whereabouts are you located Chris? There are generally a number of vintage baris floating around, but most have had a hard life. I recently got very lucky finding a lovely Martin Committee III in silver plate that was cherished by one owner all its life. But those finds are rare as hen's teeth, and truth be told, I wasn't in the market for a bari at the time. That one just happened to find me.

If you're in the market for a GOOD horn, and you want/need to buy online, I always recommend to check out these 3 dealers:

  1. vintagesax.com Gayle always has amazing horns, and sells them in great condition. She used to sell them after overhauls, but I haven't talked with her lately, so I don't know if that is still the case. Regardless, her horns are always lovely. I bought my curvy from her, and if I was looking for something specific, she is one person I would call.
  2. quinntheeskimo Matt is a really nice guy, and he sells great vintage horns as well. Although lately he is selling more new stuff, his vintage horns are lovely. (Yes, he is one of the sponsors of this site, but that has nothing to do with my recommending him. I've met him personally, and have played some of his stuff, so I'm talking from experience here.)
  3. pmwoodwind Paul is a legend, and with good reason. His horns are great, as is his tech work. His list of vintage baris ATM is quite impressive, but I'm not sure how current it is. He is not all that quick to update his website. Some may have sold, while he may have new stock.

In any event, if I was seriously looking for a bari, I would start with these 3 dealers and see what they had. (If I couldn't find anything local, or if I was looking for something specific.)

I look forward to engaging in some sax talk with you Chris in the saxophone section of our forum....helen

And now for some vintage sax porn: my 1886 HP bari by Evette & Schaeffer/Buffet

Hi Helen,
Thank you for your welcoming message.
I am french, living in Singapore.
My bari is from 1908, and was played by my grand-father in my home town band. It's a high pitch like yours, but I modified the neck to play in tune. Adding (in a reversible way) a length of 20mm brass tube was just enough, and I have confirmed the pitch accuracy with a chromatic tuner. Of course it's not 100% perfect , but close enough. The sound is huge and I could not find yet anything equivalent in modern horns , but the real issue is the ergonomics. This is the reason why I am searching for a vintage horn like Conn New Wonder or Buescher True Tone


Thank you for the links ...
Hi all,

I'm Maggie, I'm 21 and I'm from the UK. I used to play violin and piano when I was at school but always wanted to play the clarinet. So I'm teaching myself at the minute. I am planning on lessons but can't do any until I pass my driving test so for now I'm working my way through some clarinet books I have and trying to improve my sight reading (which is pretty bad at the moment). So yeah, that's me! Hello to you all!



Clarinet CE/Moderator
Staff member
Hi all,

I'm Maggie, I'm 21 and I'm from the UK. I used to play violin and piano when I was at school but always wanted to play the clarinet. So I'm teaching myself at the minute. I am planning on lessons but can't do any until I pass my driving test so for now I'm working my way through some clarinet books I have and trying to improve my sight reading (which is pretty bad at the moment). So yeah, that's me! Hello to you all!

Maggie 😊
Welcome Maggie,
Clarinet is fun to play but can be a bit challenging compared to other instruments.
But practice will solve a lot.
I wouldn't worry about sight reading right now. making sure you know how to play each note, can comfortably go up and back down the break (mid C, B Bb, A ) is a normal trouble spot for players. Work on a consistent , clear and full tone. It can be fun learning.


Admin and all around good guy.
Staff member
I bought a clarinet a little over a year ago with the intent of learning to play it but the clarinet needs repairs and I haven't got around yet to get it fixed (i know :emoji_rolling_eyes: ) but i'd still would like to learn the clarinet some day... so maybe who know? This forum might inspire me to get started on that.
So I didn't hear, or maybe wasn't keeping track, but did you ever make progress on your clarinet studies? Cheers!
Hi everyone, I'm picking up my recorder again for the first time since school (30 years ago). I wanted to take it a step further though but adding some new techniques and even using electronic effects. I don't think I can post a link yet (one has to submit two posts before links work, I believe) but I've made a Youtube about my project that's called "Hardcore Recorder tricks" so if you feel like looking it up I'd love to discuss other techniques that I could try ...or does this insult the instrument? The video is intended to be funny but the experimentation is real. Hope to hear from some of you :)


Content Expert Saxophones
Staff member
Hi there HR. Welcome to the Woodwind Forum.

Congratulations for taking the plunge back into the world of music after your hiatus. What kind and voice of recorder are you using?

Me? I never progressed past the plastic recorder stage we all studied in elementary school. I did however, use the basic fingerings I learned in those grade 4, 5, & 6 music classes and apply them to saxophone--since the sax has the same basic fingers (meaning from C to C) as a recorder. I have always been very thankful to my music teachers from those early days, since they are the ones who inspired me, and encouraged me on my very early path to musicianship.

I am not up on all the various recorders that there are, but we have a Content Expert (CE) for that and related topics. Hopefully he will check in here sometime. You might also consider posting a thread in that forum area as well. We do have players of all kinds of modern and vintage instruments in that family who frequent the Exotica Winds section. There's a good chance you will be able to connect with others who share your interest in interesting things that can be done with a recorder.


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Banned :(
Anyway here's the video - once again, it's meant to be primarily a humorous video but I'd be interested to hear what you think of some of my recorder playing ideas:
Brilliant stuff. I have 3 recorders, soprano alto and tenor. The tenor is huge
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